Don't like my 12 year old SOS suspender inflatable life jackets. They have a 
built-in harness but keep catching things like winches, winch handles and 
always at just the wrong time. I'll be checking out a newer, more streamlined 
set at the boat show. 

I have the Lifesling and keep a 3:1 handy billy aboard if I need to haul up an 
MOB. The plan is to use a boom bail on the very end of the boom for that 
purpose. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

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One has to wonder about a cruising boat without a swim ladder. How would you 
get into and out of the dinghy? 



Anyway, on Imzadi I have a snatch block to attach to the end of the boom. Use 
the Lifesling to get the MOB alongside, then route the line for the Lifesling 
through the snatch block and to a cockpit or cabin top winch. Haul them up and 
swing the boom inboard. 



Also, the main halyards on both my boats are long enough to go through a snatch 
block on the boom and then down to the surface of the water and still reach the 
winch. That was a suggestion from a friend in the CG Auxiliary a number of 
years ago and seemed like a good idea. 



Rick Brass 

Imzadi C&C 38 mk 2 

la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1 

Washington, NC 






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The theory for getting her back on board was interesting. The boat is an 
Ericson Cruising 36 with very high topsides and no swim ladder. We tied off a 
line on a stern dockline cleat, draped the line in the water and loaded the 
other end on a winch. The boat owner was hoping she could stand on the line and 
just get pulled up on the winch. In practice, we had a difficult time getting 
her to a point where she could do this. We had a lifesling with the tackle on 
board if we had needed it. 





I have a lifesling on my boat, but not the lifting tackle. I am thinking harder 
about making that an offseason purchase. Thanks for the thoughtful replies, 
everyone! 





Jim 



Sent from my iPad 



On Sep 17, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List < 
[email protected] > wrote: 





I did a safety at sea course, which involved spending some quality time in the 
pool wearing full gear and my PFD (inflated). I found it difficult to maneuver 
with it fully inflated, but could let some out and was able to do the required 
stuff (swim, climb into the liferaft) with it on. For me a crotch strap add-on 
does make it easier as it keeps things lower, I tried it both ways. 



As for re-boarding, a ladder isn't much good if it does not get a couple of 
rungs under water - not many of us can lift our body weight and wet gear up 
with our arms, when already exhausted. We also bought a lifesling and have 
tackle ready in case someone has to be hoisted aboard. 

Graham Collins 
Secret Plans 
C&C 35-III #11 


On 2015-09-17 2:53 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List wrote: 

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This is a bit of a tangent, but I wanted to get some feedback on a recent event 
in our marina that has a lot of us talking. 



We have some friends that own a cruising boat. The wife has been a little 
hesitant about sailing in part because of poor swimming ability causing a 
general fear of water. She decided to confront her fears head on by 
volunteering to do a live person overboard drill. We got a bunch of people on 
board their boat and enlisted a smaller boat as a chase boat. She put on an 
inflatable life jacket with an expiring sensor and jumped in the water in the 
harbor. It was at the end of a stretch of hot weather so there were fewer fears 
about hypothermia and the waves were negligible, which is as good as it gets 
for Lake Michigan. 



The PFD inflated immediately and brought her to the surface just fine, but she 
found that the inflated bladder pretty much immobilized her. She could not lift 
her head properly or move her arms to maneuver to the throwables in the water. 
One of the people in the chase boat ultimately jumped in to get her over to her 
boat and we got her back up on deck, but it was a more tense process than any 
of us expected. Our friend confronting her fears was actually satisfied with 
the result, she was able to remain calm and ultimately got back on the boat 
without injury, but it raised some doubts about inflatable PFD’s with the rest 
of us. 



Anyone have experience with actually deploying an inflatable PFD? Were you able 
to maneuver? Did you need to partially deflate the bladder? 



As a side note, we have gone looking for a good quality non-inflatable PFD with 
a harness and crotch strap, which is becoming a requirement for some races now 
and pretty much came up empty at this point. 



Thanks, 



Jim Reinardy 

C&C 30-2 “Firewater” 

Milwaukee, WI 





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Subject: Re: Stus-List - Inflable life jacket with harness recommendation 







My Kong tether has snap shackle for self eject. 





On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:53 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List < 
[email protected] > wrote: 

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don't forget to sign up for the PYacht email list before you place your order 
and they'll give a 5% off code on a purchase over $100 





five bucks is five bucks! 






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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:28:37 -0400 


I don't recall - one of the early posts on the subject. At the price of these 
at pyacht I might be tempted to replace my "spare" old style tethers. 


-- 


Jonathan 


Indigo C&C 35III 


SOUTHPORT CT 



On Sep 16, 2015, at 08:03, Frederick G Street via CnC-List < 
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Mine does. Which one are you looking at? I’ve got the “Y” tether with one 
six-foot leg and one three-foot leg; both of those have the positive-action 
carabiners. The harness end has a snap shackle with a pull-lanyard. Like this: 
http://www.pyacht.com/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pr+kng283sete.htm 





— Fred 


Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI 




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On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Indigo via CnC-List < [email protected] > 
wrote: 


I am surprised to see that the Kong tether as illustrated does not have a 
snap-shackle for use at the harness end to enable quick disconnect if needed. 
With any tension, you'd need to cut the tether in order to get free if you 
were, say, trapped under water. 




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