Mark,

I like the idea, it sounds like a nice refinement of my friend's method.  I do 
think it might be difficult to actually get in the sail while in the water 
though, would it be better to lay across it?

Jim

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> On Sep 17, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I've read a lot about people being unable to climb back aboard a boat (never 
> experienced the issue on anything bigger than an Albacore).
> One recommendation I'm looking to try - a triangular section of fabric (I'm 
> thinking the head off an old jib) - shackle the bottom corners to the toe 
> rail and attach the head to a halyard
> Get the overboard crew to lay in the hollow of the sail as it bags down and 
> then winch the halyard.
> You automatically get a 2-1 advantage by pulling up only one end in addition 
> to using gear that is already set on the boat.  Plus the person is already 
> lying down in the sail and will roll right back in under the lifelines rather 
> than having to winch them up overtop.
> 
> I think my current jib is ready to retire - and maybe this is a perfect use 
> for the head of the sail.
> 
> Interested to hear thoughts from people who have actually tried different 
> techniques.  I've yet to do MOB drills - it's in the plan, but never seems to 
> fit the day.
> 
> Mark
> 
> There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
>   - George Santayana
>> On 2015-09-17 5:31 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List wrote:
>> I did a safety at sea course, which involved spending some quality time in 
>> the pool wearing full gear and my PFD (inflated).  I found it difficult to 
>> maneuver with it fully inflated, but could let some out and was able to do 
>> the required stuff (swim, climb into the liferaft) with it on.  For me a 
>> crotch strap add-on does make it easier as it keeps things lower, I tried it 
>> both ways.
>> 
>> As for re-boarding, a ladder isn't much good if it does not get a couple of 
>> rungs under water - not many of us can lift our body weight and wet gear up 
>> with our arms, when already exhausted.  We also bought a lifesling and have 
>> tackle ready in case someone has to be hoisted aboard.
>> Graham Collins
>> Secret Plans
>> C&C 35-III #11
>>> On 2015-09-17 2:53 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List wrote:
>>> This is a bit of a tangent, but I wanted to get some feedback on a recent 
>>> event in our marina that has a lot of us talking.
>>>  
>>> We have some friends that own a cruising boat.  The wife has been a little 
>>> hesitant about sailing in part because of poor swimming ability causing a 
>>> general fear of water.  She decided to confront her fears head on by 
>>> volunteering to do a live person overboard drill.  We got a bunch of people 
>>> on             board their boat and enlisted a smaller boat as a chase 
>>> boat.  She put on an inflatable life jacket with an expiring sensor and 
>>> jumped in the water in the harbor.  It was at the end of a stretch of hot 
>>> weather so there were fewer fears about hypothermia and the waves were 
>>> negligible, which is as good as it gets for Lake Michigan. 
>>>  
>>> The PFD inflated immediately and brought her to the surface just fine, but 
>>> she found that the inflated bladder pretty much immobilized her.  She could 
>>> not lift her head properly or move her arms to maneuver to the throwables 
>>> in the water.  One of the people in the chase boat ultimately jumped in to 
>>> get her over to her boat and we got her back up on deck, but it was a more 
>>> tense process than any of us expected.  Our friend confronting her fears 
>>> was actually satisfied with the result, she was able to remain calm and 
>>> ultimately got back on the boat without injury, but it raised some doubts 
>>> about inflatable PFD’s with the rest of us.
>>>  
>>> Anyone have experience with actually deploying an inflatable PFD?  Were you 
>>> able to maneuver?  Did you need to partially deflate the bladder?
>>>  
>>> As a side note, we have gone looking for a good quality non-inflatable PFD 
>>> with a harness and crotch strap, which is becoming a requirement for some 
>>> races now and pretty much came up empty at this point.
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>>  
>>> Jim Reinardy
>>> C&C 30-2 “Firewater”
>>> Milwaukee, WI
>>>  
>>>  
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>>> 
>>> From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 5:08 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Cc: Kevin Driscoll
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Inflable life jacket with harness recommendation
>>>  
>>>  
>>> My Kong tether has snap shackle for self eject.
>>>  
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:53 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> don't forget to sign up for the PYacht email list before you place your 
>>> order and they'll give a 5% off code on a purchase over $100
>>>  
>>> five bucks is five bucks!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>> From: Indigo via CnC-List <[email protected]>
>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Indigo <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List - Inflable life jacket with harness recommendation
>>> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:28:37 -0400
>>> 
>>> I don't recall - one of the early posts on the subject. At the price of 
>>> these at pyacht I might be tempted to replace my "spare" old style tethers. 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jonathan
>>> Indigo C&C 35III
>>> SOUTHPORT CT
>>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 08:03, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mine does.  Which one are you looking at?  I’ve got the “Y” tether with one 
>>> six-foot leg and one three-foot leg; both of those have the positive-action 
>>> carabiners.  The harness end has a snap shackle with a pull-lanyard.  Like 
>>> this: http://www.pyacht.com/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pr+kng283sete.htm
>>>  
>>> — Fred
>>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>>>  
>>> On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Indigo via CnC-List <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> I am surprised to see that the Kong tether as illustrated does not have a 
>>> snap-shackle for use at the harness end to enable quick disconnect if 
>>> needed.  With any tension, you'd need to cut the tether in order to get 
>>> free if you were, say, trapped under water. 
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