Some things that made it easier in my situation are that we have lifeline gates on port and stbd exactly where they need to be. The boom is also particularly high compared to most boats. I have a rigid vang and a topping lift so again the boat is already well rigged. LifeSling actually recommends using a halyard. Seems very inconvenient to me since I would have to lower the mainsail, go forward and disconnect the halyard, fish the halyard back appropriately through the lazy jacks, and then only be able to winch the victim onboard. I have a double ended mainsheet so if the cam-cleat and fiddle block at the victim gets too hard then I can move to the winch and grind them the rest of the way.
Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 17, 2015 10:58 PM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" < [email protected]> wrote: > I +1 the idea of snap shackles at the ends of the mainsheet tackle. > > > > If you use the main sheet tackle for lifting it makes sense to use the > main halyard to support the boom (preferably lifting the boom out of > horizontal to raise the MOB over the lifelines). > > > > Marek > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > *Sent:* September-17-15 22:15 > *To:* C&C List > *Cc:* Josh Muckley > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List - Inflable life jacket - inflation > > > > I've had very good results using the main sheet as a lifting tackle. A > snap shackle came rigged to the traveler car by the PO. I pop the snap > shackle off the traveler and hand it down to the MOB or the helper. Make > the shackle and then mainsheet the victim in. I can see that it may be > challenging and have various levels of success on different boats. It gave > me a lot of confidence. > > One thing to consider is a how to "clip" the victim on if they are > incapacitated. There are kong caribbeaners that deploy from the end of an > appropriate boat hook. This is my plan. > > The drooped rope and primary winch trick was Practical Sailor's first > choice for a conscious victim. Clearly methods work better or worse on > different boats. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > On Sep 17, 2015 10:01 PM, "Jim Reinardy via CnC-List" < > [email protected]> wrote: > > The theory for getting her back on board was interesting. The boat is an > Ericson Cruising 36 with very high topsides and no swim ladder. We tied > off a line on a stern dockline cleat, draped the line in the water and > loaded the other end on a winch. The boat owner was hoping she could > stand on the line and just get pulled up on the winch. In practice, we had > a difficult time getting her to a point where she could do this. We had a > lifesling with the tackle on board if we had needed it. > > > > I have a lifesling on my boat, but not the lifting tackle. I am thinking > harder about making that an offseason purchase. Thanks for the thoughtful > replies, everyone! > > > > Jim > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Sep 17, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I did a safety at sea course, which involved spending some quality time in > the pool wearing full gear and my PFD (inflated). I found it difficult to > maneuver with it fully inflated, but could let some out and was able to do > the required stuff (swim, climb into the liferaft) with it on. For me a > crotch strap add-on does make it easier as it keeps things lower, I tried > it both ways. > > As for re-boarding, a ladder isn't much good if it does not get a couple > of rungs under water - not many of us can lift our body weight and wet gear > up with our arms, when already exhausted. We also bought a lifesling and > have tackle ready in case someone has to be hoisted aboard. > > Graham Collins > > Secret Plans > > C&C 35-III #11 > > On 2015-09-17 2:53 PM, Jim Reinardy via CnC-List wrote: > > This is a bit of a tangent, but I wanted to get some feedback on a recent > event in our marina that has a lot of us talking. > > > > We have some friends that own a cruising boat. The wife has been a little > hesitant about sailing in part because of poor swimming ability causing a > general fear of water. She decided to confront her fears head on by > volunteering to do a live person overboard drill. We got a bunch of people > on board their boat and enlisted a smaller boat as a chase boat. She put > on an inflatable life jacket with an expiring sensor and jumped in the > water in the harbor. It was at the end of a stretch of hot weather so > there were fewer fears about hypothermia and the waves were negligible, > which is as good as it gets for Lake Michigan. > > > > The PFD inflated immediately and brought her to the surface just fine, but > she found that the inflated bladder pretty much immobilized her. She could > not lift her head properly or move her arms to maneuver to the throwables > in the water. One of the people in the chase boat ultimately jumped in to > get her over to her boat and we got her back up on deck, but it was a more > tense process than any of us expected. Our friend confronting her fears > was actually satisfied with the result, she was able to remain calm and > ultimately got back on the boat without injury, but it raised some doubts > about inflatable PFD’s with the rest of us. > > > > Anyone have experience with actually deploying an inflatable PFD? Were > you able to maneuver? Did you need to partially deflate the bladder? > > > > As a side note, we have gone looking for a good quality non-inflatable PFD > with a harness and crotch strap, which is becoming a requirement for some > races now and pretty much came up empty at this point. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jim Reinardy > > C&C 30-2 “Firewater” > > Milwaukee, WI > > > > > > Sent from Mail <http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > > > > *From: *Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List > *Sent: *Wednesday, September 16, 2015 5:08 PM > *To: *[email protected] > *Cc: *Kevin Driscoll > *Subject: *Re: Stus-List - Inflable life jacket with harness > recommendation > > > > > > My Kong tether has snap shackle for self eject. > > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:53 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > don't forget to sign up for the PYacht email list before you place your > order and they'll give a 5% off code on a purchase over $100 > > > > five bucks is five bucks! > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Indigo via CnC-List <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Cc: Indigo <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Stus-List - Inflable life jacket with harness recommendation > > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 08:28:37 -0400 > > I don't recall - one of the early posts on the subject. At the price of > these at pyacht I might be tempted to replace my "spare" old style tethers. > > -- > > Jonathan > > Indigo C&C 35III > > SOUTHPORT CT > > > On Sep 16, 2015, at 08:03, Frederick G Street via CnC-List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Mine does. Which one are you looking at? I’ve got the “Y” tether with > one six-foot leg and one three-foot leg; both of those have the > positive-action carabiners. The harness end has a snap shackle with a > pull-lanyard. Like this: > http://www.pyacht.com/cgi-bin/pagegen.pl?pr+kng283sete.htm > > > > — Fred > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V *Oceanis* (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > > > > On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:29 PM, Indigo via CnC-List <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I am surprised to see that the Kong tether as illustrated does not have a > snap-shackle for use at the harness end to enable quick disconnect if > needed. With any tension, you'd need to cut the tether in order to get > free if you were, say, trapped under water. > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Email address: > > [email protected] > > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > [email protected] > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the > bottom of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >
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