Note also that Open CPN software is only available for Android tablets at this 
time, not IPad.  Jerry J&J

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> On Sep 21, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Oops - I didn't mean to turn this into an Apple vs Android debate! : ) But I 
> can't resist responding to a few of your points: 
> 
> - It's not true that on Android you're locked in to one app store. There are 
> alternatives (most well-known of which is Amazon's app store): 
> https://www.androidpit.com/best-google-play-store-alternative-app-stores
> Also Android phones can be easily unlocked and you can install any app 
> package that you wish, downloaded from the Internet without any app store (at 
> your own risk). Apple doesn't allow that to be done easily (you need to 
> "jailbreak" it), and their app store is also more restrictive of app 
> approvals. 
> 
> - Hardware lock-in - maybe we have different definitions of "lock in", but 
> what I meant could be better phrased as "intentionally decreased hardware 
> intercompatibility." I can't power/charge an iphone with a USB 2.0 or 3.0 
> cable (without some kind of adapter), and those are industry wide open 
> standards. 
> 
> So, yes, Apple isn't the same as Raymarine (and objectively not as bad), but 
> both have good examples of similar efforts made to create a closed ecosystem.
> 
> And I am typing this on a MacBook Air. So I'm not a complete Mac hater. : )
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 7:32 PM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com>
>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Cc: 
>> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 21:37:20 -0400
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and
>> Patrick, I have to chime in for Apple here - and not speaking to the iPhone 
>> 7 because I haven't been paying attention and I'm an Android guy, but there 
>> is no "hardware lock in" with Apple. "Ecosystem" lock in, absolutely. You 
>> get the iPhone so you're locked to their App store - yes. This is also true 
>> for Android. There are benefits and there are drawbacks, but hardware lock 
>> in - no. They use all the same ports everyone else uses these days. I'm a 
>> Windows, Linux and Mac guy ... Someone wants to take my macbook? - from my 
>> cold dead hands!
>> 
>> The XPS laptops and that come close in industrial design these days - they 
>> have that nice edge display. But it's still Windows and well, Windows was my 
>> first, but it's a total kludge fest compared to the UI in OSX. I use both, 
>> every day and once upon a time, back in the OS9 days, I made fun of the mac 
>> guys. 
>> 
>> Steve
>> Suhana, C&C 32
>> Toronto
> 
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