Marek,

Yeah I was kinda misleading in my native 12v statement.  What I meant was
that 12v power supplies are often available.  12v cigarette lighter
adapters that put out 19v for laptops.

Interestingly though, I did notice today on my laptop that the battery is
putting out 12v.  It takes 19v from the wall adapter but only 12v from the
battery.  I feel a jerry rig in the future....

And you're entirely right about the cheapness of a laptop that is a year or
two old.  I've been picking up these dell rigs (latitude d830) that come
used from businesses for ~$100.  I've had them for about a year and a half
and today just realized that the bios date is 2013!  They are really very
new (newer when I got them) in the grand scheme of things, but old as far
as technology goes.  I can trash a ~$100 laptop every 5 to 10 years.  We're
so close to the point of diminishing returns in terms of what most of us do
on a day to day basis.

Josh

On Nov 20, 2016 12:03 PM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Not all laptops are inherently 12 V (some use as high as 19 V). But it is
> easy to check.
>
>
>
> Laptops have an extra advantage - they get obsoleted pretty quickly, so
> you can get a pretty decent used one for around $250. And you get all the
> internal power protection you need.
>
>
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh
> Muckley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 20, 2016 11:53
> *To:* C&C List <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 12 volt desktop compter
>
>
>
> You mentioned USB powered, so is the Raspberry PI.  In fact that was one
> of my biggest concerns.  The stability of a usb connector from a 12v boat
> supply just started feeling really unreliable.  I overcame it with a UPS
> addon "HAT" for the PI.  That is one nice thing about a laptop or even a
> tablet device.  They don't shutdown just because of a sketchy power
> connection and they will auto shutdown if the battery gets too low.
>
> They're portable and have a considerable screen built right in.  They are
> also natively designed for 12v power supplies.
>
> I guess that's why Rasberry PI fits my needs so well.  It is a cheap
> device that I can afford to ADD permanently to the boat and sustain
> depreciation and obsolescence without flinching.  The user interface can be
> ANY of my other personal devices and doesn't have to be permanently tied to
> the boat or regulatory transported to and from.
>
> Just my 2 cents,
> Josh
>
>
>
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