Too bad US voters don't live in that world :) 

(now I'm ducking and running for cover :) 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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From: "Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
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Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 8:32:10 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels? 



In the world of science and mathematics, anecdotes are not not considered data, 
and data is not knowledge. Believe what you like. :-) 
Bill Bina 

On 12/1/2016 9:57 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: 





Not sure I agree. I have never seen solar panels sold at suboptimal power 
points. 

I grabbed one random model from the Miami Electrical site someone mentioned and 
it is no different: 

http://www.suniva.com/documents/OPTXXX-60-4-100%2008%2009%2012.pdf 

Max power is 250 watts at 29.6 volts, and max current is 8.44 amps. 

If you want 250 watts out of it, you need a MPPT controller to translate 29.6 
volts into whatever you need. 

The Renogy is the exact same, it gets max power at 18.5 volts and you need a 
MPPT controller to translate into what you need. 

Are you implying the Suniva panel actually puts out MORE than 250 watts but 
they are not telling you that for some reason? Their own document states MAX 
POWER. It would be a bit odd to say the least if 250 watt panels were really 
300+ watt panels with the right controller. 



Joe 

Coquina 




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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 09:28 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Where are we buying solar panels? 




Ohms law supercedes marketing fluff and folklore. Renogy is not as forthcoming 
as many of it's competitors. No, all panels are not sold to the same standards 
as Renogy. Can a car manufacturer claim 30 miles per gallon, based on mileage 
attained without the car's interior installed, and tires inflated to 100 psi? 

Bill Bina 






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