The turks head wraps across a spoke, so no, it can't be moved. good thought though Bruce Whitmore
(847) 404-5092 (mobile) [email protected] From: "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: "Hoyt, Mike" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 2:35 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links? #yiv4571028736 #yiv4571028736 -- _filtered #yiv4571028736 {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv4571028736 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv4571028736 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv4571028736 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv4571028736 #yiv4571028736 p.yiv4571028736MsoNormal, #yiv4571028736 li.yiv4571028736MsoNormal, #yiv4571028736 div.yiv4571028736MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv4571028736 a:link, #yiv4571028736 span.yiv4571028736MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4571028736 a:visited, #yiv4571028736 span.yiv4571028736MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4571028736 p.yiv4571028736MsoAcetate, #yiv4571028736 li.yiv4571028736MsoAcetate, #yiv4571028736 div.yiv4571028736MsoAcetate {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:8.0pt;}#yiv4571028736 span.yiv4571028736EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv4571028736 span.yiv4571028736BalloonTextChar {}#yiv4571028736 .yiv4571028736MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv4571028736 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv4571028736 div.yiv4571028736WordSection1 {}#yiv4571028736 Any chance that the Turks Head is moving? .. or that someone is not moving it just for fun? From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 12:39 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Bruce Whitmore Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links? And weirdly, the steering is very precise, with no sloppiness underway, and it happens when we're OFF the boat! On a side note, when we leave the boat, I tie off the wheel just in case there is more current than the wheel brake can control. This is done to keep the wheel from turning to the stops, and to prevent wheel brake wear. Our slip is in shallow water, and though we have never noticed the rudder touching bottom when we sleep on the boat, the keel stub will touch during low tides. Thankfully, we have a soft sand bottom. Maybe the boat settles at low tide or a current comes by, pushes the rudder against the line ties, causes slack in the chain/wire rope, causing the chain to jump? I have not tried to look at how slack the cable becomes when I hit the rudder stop. The rust, however will have to be dealt with sooner rather than later... Any further thoughts would be appreciated. Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) [email protected] From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List <[email protected]> To: C&C List <[email protected]> Cc: Josh Muckley <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links? I can pretty much assure you that there is rust. What I can't explain is why the problem comes and goes and at such a prescribed amount. The detrimental rust would also likely cause a looseness in the wheel and cables which would be quite perceptible. Josh On Jan 24, 2018 11:12 AM, "Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List" <[email protected]> wrote: Per Chuck's previous comments, the radial wheel has a keyway and key, so I don't think it can slip. Similarly, the helm wheel has a keyway and key. I've tightened the idler pully plate bolts, but I suspect there is rust going on under there, which will mean a full disassembly. Sigh... Bruce Whitmore (847) 404-5092 (mobile) [email protected] From: Michael Brown via CnC-List <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Michael Brown <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links? If the radial wheel was slipping on the rudder post it could cause that issue. Maybe use a sharpie and put a line down the rudder post and onto the radial wheel. 20º is not much movement, you may require a fine line. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 01:54:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Bruce Whitmore <[email protected]> Hello all, OK, I think I have a weird thing going here... I have adjusted the wheel to center the turks head knot straight up when the wheel is centered.? I got it all nice & straight a few weeks ago, and came back to the boat to find it about 20 degrees off to port.? By the way, were talking about 20% off on the wheel, not 20% of rudder. ? After installing my autopilot, I again adjusted it, this time getting the cables set to approximately the same amount of adjustment on each side to the adjustment bolts through the radial drive wheel.? This required jumping the chain 1 or 2 notches on the wheel sprocket. All was well for a couple weeks, and behold, on Saturday I went back only to find the turks head knot about 20 degrees to starboard.? During these adjustments, I have made a point to keep the cable deflection adjusted to be relatively minimal (say 1/2" or so?), without getting so tight as to reduce the feel of the wheel.? I've notice no issues whatsoever when we're out sailing. During the first set of adjustments, I noticed the idler wheel bolts were a little loose, and tightened those.? Considering the radial wheel bolts connect to each end of the cable, and the cables attach to the chain, I can only think the chain is somehow jumping on the sprocket. Thoughts? Bruce Whitmore 1994 C&C 37/40+, "Astralis"Madiera Beach, FL (847) 404-5092 (mobile) [email protected] ______________________________ _________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/ stumurray ______________________________ _________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/ stumurray _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
_______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
