If I take the wheel off and rotate it 180 degrees, does that create the
same deviation?  I routinely change between my 32 inch (cruising) and 36
inch (racing) wheels.  If I don't put the wheel on with the correct side
forward, it is always off a spoke or so.

Could someone be messing with you?

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Jan 24, 2018 12:40 PM, "Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

The turks head wraps across a spoke, so no, it can't be moved.

good thought though
Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net


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*From:* "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Cc:* "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2018 2:35 PM

*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

Any chance that the Turks Head is moving?

..  or that someone is not moving it just for fun?

*From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Bruce
Whitmore via CnC-List
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2018 12:39 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Bruce Whitmore
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

And weirdly, the steering is very precise, with no sloppiness underway, and
it happens when we're OFF the boat!

On a side note, when we leave the boat, I tie off the wheel just in case
there is more current than the wheel brake can control.  This is done to
keep the wheel from turning to the stops, and to prevent wheel brake wear.
Our slip is in shallow water, and though we have never noticed the rudder
touching bottom when we sleep on the boat, the keel stub will touch during
low tides.  Thankfully, we have a soft sand bottom.

Maybe the boat settles at low tide or a current comes by, pushes the rudder
against the line ties, causes slack in the chain/wire rope, causing the
chain to jump?  I have not tried to look at how slack the cable becomes
when I hit the rudder stop.

The rust, however will have to be dealt with sooner rather than later...

Any further thoughts would be appreciated.

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

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*From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*To:* C&C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Cc:* Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:20 AM
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

I can pretty much assure you that there is rust.  What I can't explain is
why the problem comes and goes and at such a prescribed amount.  The
detrimental rust would also likely cause a looseness in the wheel and
cables which would be quite perceptible.

Josh



On Jan 24, 2018 11:12 AM, "Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Per Chuck's previous comments, the radial wheel has a keyway and key, so I
don't think it can slip.  Similarly, the helm wheel has a keyway and key.
I've tightened the idler pully plate bolts, but I suspect there is rust
going on under there, which will mean a full disassembly.

Sigh...

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

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*From:* Michael Brown via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Michael Brown <m...@tkg.ca>
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:06 AM
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Edson wheel chain jumping links?

If the radial wheel was slipping on the rudder post it could cause that
issue.
Maybe use a sharpie and put a line down the rudder post and onto the radial
wheel.
20ยบ is not much movement, you may require a fine line.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1



Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 01:54:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bruce Whitmore <bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>

Hello all,

OK, I think I have a weird thing going here...
I have adjusted the wheel to center the turks head knot straight up when
the wheel is centered.? I got it all nice & straight a few weeks ago, and
came back to the boat to find it about 20 degrees off to port.? By the way,
were talking about 20% off on the wheel, not 20% of rudder. ? After
installing my autopilot, I again adjusted it, this time getting the cables
set to approximately the same amount of adjustment on each side to the
adjustment bolts through the radial drive wheel.? This required jumping the
chain 1 or 2 notches on the wheel sprocket.
All was well for a couple weeks, and behold, on Saturday I went back only
to find the turks head knot about 20 degrees to starboard.? During these
adjustments, I have made a point to keep the cable deflection adjusted to
be relatively minimal (say 1/2" or so?), without getting so tight as to
reduce the feel of the wheel.? I've notice no issues whatsoever when we're
out sailing.

During the first set of adjustments, I noticed the idler wheel bolts were a
little loose, and tightened those.?

Considering the radial wheel bolts connect to each end of the cable, and
the cables attach to the chain, I can only think the chain is somehow
jumping on the sprocket.
Thoughts?
Bruce Whitmore
1994 C&C 37/40+, "Astralis"Madiera Beach, FL
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

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