My local PHRF will not penalize me either if the asym area is not larger than 
my Sym masthead kite.’—as long as the sprit is < 30” more than the spin pole 
length IIRC.
I don’t know what it will do with my VMG downwind (and neither do they!) but it 
could make it possible to fly the asym kite with less crew.
Charlie NelsonWater Phantom


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On Thursday, January 21, 2021, 5:31 PM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Chuck G,
No, Ranger guy didn’t take a PRHF hit - which shows one of the many problems 
with PHRF in my RSA.  For his rating with the asym, our scorer and handicapper 
just used his spinnaker rating as if he was flying a symmetrical.
Yes if your son stays out here this summer, there are several good sailing 
scenes (Chatfield, Cherry Creek, Dillon) he can connect to.
Cheers,Randy


On Jan 21, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Novabraid via CnC-List <[email protected]> 
wrote:
>From a different Chuck:Randy,Did the Ranger dude take a rating penalty for the 
>sprit?  Also, if my son stays out in Colorado this summer between semesters at 
>CSU, you’ll have access to an awesome bowman with tons of Asym experience (as 
>well as conventional).  He’ll be looking for a ride for sure..Cheers,Chuck 
>GilchrestS/V Half MagicLandfall 35  From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List 
><[email protected]> 
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Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER <[email protected]>; Randy Stafford 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Stus-List Sprits and Asyms  Chuck did you get a furler for your asym?  
A top-down furler?  Guy in my club got one (and an asym) for his Ranger 28 last 
season and immediately kicked my ass with it.  Takes him about a minute to furl 
his upwind sail, unfurl the asym, and start accelerating.  He built a homemade 
bowsprit and, though it looks clunky, it works well enough to beat me downwind 
:)  I looked at the Selden sprits too.  I may have to join the arms race in my 
club.  Cheers,Randy


On Jan 21, 2021, at 12:12 PM, cenelson via CnC-List <[email protected]> 
wrote:  I’d be interested in how your new sprit changes your PHRF rating.   I 
have thought about adding a sprit as well for limited crew racing or cruising 
and the Seldon looks well engineered.  In my case, my anchor roller complicates 
the matter in terms of fitting the sprit pole but the rating hit is 
is also an issue.  Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom

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On Thursday, January 21, 2021, 12:46 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
<[email protected]> wrote:

My two cents:  Spartite looks like the best solution however it still needs a 
boot to protect from UVs and the price is too high for me.  Similar to 
PropSpeed, it's a good product but too much money for the benefit offered.   
I'm not cheap.  I just ordered a Selden bow sprit kit.  Very expensive but 
couldn't figure out how to build my own as well engineered.  Bought a used Asym 
for it last year.  The sprit will add some fun to downwind sailing on  
Chesapeake Bay and make it easier to solo.   Chuck       

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