Gorilla clear tape is fabulous. Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 17, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List <[email protected]> wrote: I used Six10 on my keel joint at West's recommendation. Haven't hauled yet to see how it has held up, but it seemed to work well enough. A bit difficult to work with, but I don't have much experience with epoxy. I use it without the mixing nozzles for small jobs, including some holes in the deck, but I noticed it is still not quite thick enough to prevent levelling out, so I had to tape a plastic piece over the top to keep it flush with the deck. -- Shawn Wright [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FSVCallisto&data=04%7C01%7C%7C4345eb19c52c4e9664ad08d8d3647031%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637491775618783468%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=fcCP8dpWsv%2B%2BNqLiDot3LYGgjkS3TfA%2FEtCGstSBgn4%3D&reserved=0> On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 8:34 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: There is a West equivalent to the Thixo Flex. Also fits in a caulking gun. I believe it is 610. Same nozzles.A couple bucks more, but available most places that sell West. Joel On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 10:08 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Learned these things the hard way: The 3M heavy duty shipping tape is a great product and available everywhere and doesn't leave a residue like duct tape. After the epoxy cures, it peels right off and will leave the final surface smooth. If you use 404 High Density Filler instead of 406, you'll find it is heavier than air and doesn't blow around like 406. The same when sanding, the dust falls instead of blowing into your lungs or onto the neighbor's boat. A small wet vac is a must on the boat for any of this work. I like a 6 gallon with big strong motor like 4.5HP peak and I add the extra long hose. I glued a piece of carpet to the bottom so it doesn't scuff the deck or cabin sole. I keep a paper bag in it and I can position the machine in the middle of the boat and reach from bow to stern. Be mindful where the exhaust is pointed. Another great product I started using is Thixo Flex, a flexible epoxy in a caulking cartridge from Jamestown Distributers. It provides a 45 minute working time and there's much less waste. The two parts mix in the nozzle and when you're done, you release the trigger and let the product cure in the nozzle tip. When you want to use it later, just change the nozzle and start again. Extra nozzles are cheap. Chuck S On 02/17/2021 9:17 AM Matthew via CnC-List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Ron: I have found that black Gorilla “duct” tape works well, although I may try the 3M mailing tape someone suggested. Also, if you are using West System, before you put in an epoxy mixture (like colloidal silica), you are supposed to “wet” the surrounding area first to ensure a strong bond. (The exception is cotton filler, which is not as strong but will weep epoxy into the surrounding area.) Wear a good filter mask when mixing colloidal silica. Bigger, open holes are handled differently than bolt holes. For example, when I replaced my deck fills last year (about a 2 inch open hole), first I removed some of the wood deck core exposed by the hole. I could have wetted the wood with a disposable paint brush -- I like the plastic bristles, which do not fall off during application – but instead I decided to tape the entire hole underneath with Gorilla tape. I then filled the hole with epoxy, went down below and removed the tape while using a container to catch the epoxy draining out, used the same epoxy for the colloidal silica mix, then troweled the mix back into the deck core area where the wood had been removed. There was no doubt about wetting the surface using this method. The colloidal silica mix was a mayonnaise consistency and did not need support underneath while it cured. When the mixture cured, I used one of those round sanding drums that go into your drill to smooth the cured surface, then installed the new deck fills. If you’re just doing bolt holes, on the other hand, no need for colloidal silica and all that fuss – just tape underneath and pour straight West System. Use the slow hardener, and MAKE SURE THE TAPE FULLY COVERS THE HOLE AND IS ON FIRMLY (or you will have a big mess on your hands). You’ll lose a little volume after the pour as the epoxy works its way into the wood core. I usually go back and top it off. If you lose a lot of epoxy, something is wrong – check the tape. If there is no leak at the tape, some internal communication is going on. Good luck. Matt From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 8:16 AM To: 'Stus-List' <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: Hoyt, Mike <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck Put tape on the underside to cover the holes before filling with thickened epoxy. Then once cured drill appropriate sized hole in the epoxy for the fastener. Mike Hoyt Persistence Halifax, NS From: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: February 16, 2021 7:26 PM To: Matthew via CnC-List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: Ronald B. Frerker <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck Do you do anything special to keep the epoxy in place until you can put some tape under the glob? Ron Wild Cheri C&C 30-1 STL On Sunday, January 24, 2021, 01:31:10 PM CST, Matthew via CnC-List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Regarding Dennis’ comment about overbored holes being hidden by the track, a trick I like to use is to drill up from underneath and stop when the bit encounters the underside of the deck. The result is that the hole on the deck surface stays the same size. In addition, you know precisely where to place the deck fitting and drill the new hole. Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. 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