Is it a VF Shaw Chutescoop?

Bill Coleman

On Sun, Nov 12, 2023, 18:51 Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Always an interesting topic.  True, conventional wisdom says end for end
> (EFE) up to 35 feet.  Also agree EFE is faster.  Don't disagree that dip
> pole (DP) gybing is safer.  We do end for end gybes on Touche'.  Our pole
> is 3.5 inch aluminum.
>
> Regardless of EFE or DP gybing, I think the most important concept of
> gybing is the philosophy or mentality of the crew.  Whereas many crew tend
> to think a gybe is the chute coming across the boat, I prefer to visualize
> the boat turning under the chute.  That is, the chute, and its aspect to
> the wind doesn't really change.  The chute is moving down the course and
> the boat turns side to side under it.  To me, it's a subtle but significant
> way to visualize gybing.  The helmsperson really needs that visualization
> when gybing.
>
> On a side note, I spent 2 hours this morning patching holes in an
> asymmetrical chute, its snuffing sock and storage bag.  It's a chute I got
> from a dock buddy for doing some work on his boat.  It should fit Touche'.
> The chute was stored on top of his batteries.  The holes were from battery
> acid.
>
> Next is fitting the snuffing sock with a new metal hoop.  The old one is
> broken.  It collapsed on the chute and grabbed it so it wouldn't go up or
> down.
>
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 4:03 PM cenelson--- via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey listers,
>>
>> My 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb was originally set-up for dip-pole jibes using an
>> aluminum pole and used the bayonet style fittings.
>>
>> After it disappeared from my storage location, I decided to go with a
>> carbon fiber pole from Forte and fit it for end-for-end jibes since it was
>> now pretty light (~11 lbs).  We used it that way but recently we decided to
>> go with the dip-pole jibes with this pole. The consensus was that for this
>> length boat, the dip pole was the way to go.
>>
>> However, I think this may be a carry over in thinking from the days when
>> all poles were aluminum--at some pole length, such a pole length makes the
>> pole too heavy to manhandle on the fore deck.My boat is sort of on the
>> border at 36 feet (actually 35.5).
>>
>> Some local racers suggest using the end for end in light air and the dip
>> pole when the wind is up. Of course then my fore deck crew has to remember
>> how to do the dance with both methods!
>>
>> So what is the opinion of the listers--especially those who race AND use
>> a kite?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Charlie Nelson
>> Water Phantom
>>
>>
>>
>>
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