On Sat, Sep 17, 2016, at 09:24 PM, Shane Stanley wrote:
> On 18 Sep 2016, at 3:12 AM, Kyle Sluder <k...@ksluder.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> For anyone seeing the same thing, the solution seems to be to change the
> >> max size of the toolbar items to the unexpected "expected" size.
> > 
> > Yes, the intent of the warning message is to get you to do that. But
> > since you’re linking against and deploying to Mavericks, I fear you’ll
> > wind up with too-big buttons on older OSes. Could you please file a bug
> > report with a sample project attached, and send me the bug number?
> 
> Will do. So if I understand you correctly, my options are:
> 
> * Change the max size as above, and have toolbar items potentially appear
> the wrong size pre-Sierra;
> 
> * Ignore the warning and have everything appear as it should in each
> version;
> 
> * Perhaps set the max size in code, based on the running OS version.

Your understanding matches mine. (I don’t work on the team that manages
NSToolbar, so I will let them have the final say in the response to your
bug report.) In the meantime, I would go with option #2.

--Kyle Sluder

> 
> FWIW, I'm also seeing it on another project, which is more complex: the
> toolbar items are all moderately subclassed, it doesn't use autolayout,
> and it's all done in code rather than a nib. I've tried a few things, but
> I can't see any way to make the warning go away. 
> 
> I think I understand the point of the message, but the adamant tone is
> going to put developers in an invidious position if users start logging
> bugs with them over it.
> 
> >> I
> >> thought I'd already tried this without success, until I realized what was
> >> happening: I had edited the values, then closed the toolbar editor in IB.
> >> I've now realised that the changes were not being saved; when I reopened
> >> the toolbar editor, the old values were still showing. Running once with
> >> the toolbar editor open seems to have made the changes 'take". (And yes,
> >> I tried cleaning at various stages.)
> > 
> > This sounds worthy of investigation. Could you please file a bug report
> > detailing the _exact_ steps that resulted in your changes being
> > forgotten? Send me that bug number too please.
> 
> It's #28348587.
> 
> >> Along the way I discovered another problem in Xcode 8: setting a button
> >> to image-only in IB still shows any title if there is one.
> > 
> > I think we have a bug report on this already.
> 
> I've already filed #28348535, which includes a simple example.
> 
> -- 
> Shane Stanley <sstan...@myriad-com.com.au>
> <www.macosxautomation.com/applescript/apps/>, <latenightsw.com>
> 
> 

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