On 22 Jun 2003 at 8:56, Steven Noels wrote: > On 22/06/2003 6:01 Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > > Both actions and input/output modules were created to overcome > > sitemap programmability limitations. Flow doesn't have those > > limitations anymore so i don't see the reason to keep those > > artifacts here. > > > > What do others think about this? > > I think the current community and mindshare behind flow is still too > small to already start deprecating 'old-fashioned hacks' which were > and still are being (ab)used a lot for the same reasons flow will be > (ab)used for. Also, the continuations thing appears to be only one > possible way to address the webapp dev paradigm. I don't think you are > suggesting an active depreciation, but suggestions like the one above > seem rather tendencious and suggestive IMHO. > > OK, it is only a small quote lifted out of context, but it is a good > illustration of my worry that flow, being a very interesting approach, > still is _only_just_one_ approach to attack the given problem domain. > As much as I'm genuinely interested in continuation-based flow, I > think flow needs some more real-world usage (like Pier's case) before > we consider it being part of the core features of Cocoon (on the same > level of 'streamlined XML processing' and 'the sitemap'). I read the > above statement as a suggestion into that direction. > > If I say 'core', I mean the kind of stuff which you _have_ to use if > you want to use Cocoon, not the 'blocks vs core' discussion, or 'it > has an impact on the sitemap grammar'. I'm pretty sure that you don't > want to see flow added to Cocoon with people openly saying 'ok', but > silently thinking 'whatever, I'm going to stick to my way anyhow'. > > Oh. Do please read this as a neutral observation, will you? I'm not > into flames. If I'm wrong with my observation, just say so and I'll > withdraw to my cave. ;-)
Just to clarify - Stefano was only suggesting removing input/output modules from FOM, not Cocoon or the sitemap (where they are appropriate). Do your comments still stand? Regards, Upayavira
