If i ban a real ip, then if he/she does +x usermode, i would expect 
undernet to know they are effectively the same host ... so no one can 
evade a ban.

however if i banned a +x host , and then the real ip showed up in the 
banlist instead of the +x host, i think this is not good. but i dont 
think this is the behaviour?

and net, i think we are trying to save the most vulnerable and try to 
stop the windows95 click and nuke script kiddies from damaging peoples 
pc's and the like by DoS/trojan/virus tactics and distribution, and of 
course a clueful operator/user could obtain ones real ip address if 
they were determined to do so. 

"what man does, man can undo"

regards

wensu

" I can walk on water, but I stagger on alcohol. "

----- Original Message -----
From: "net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, October 17, 2002 6:20 am
Subject: Re: [Coder-Com] +x mode (bug?)

> Hmm, I would not consider this +x mode option to be a way for 
> users to feel
> 100% seure on Undernet, there are many ways a users real address 
> could be
> discovered.  This is more like a luxury of being able to change hosts.
> That's my opinion.
> 
> Cheers,
> notnet
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Cosmin Marcu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Coder-Com] +x mode (bug?)
> 
> 
> >   Sounds like a way to still find out people's hosts.. Maybe not 
> alwaysdoable
> > but it would work in theory. Assuming everyone can only get one 
> username,why
> > have that in there?
> >
> > net wrote:
> >
> > > No, it's made to make sure you don't just set +x and evade the 
> ban for
> your
> > > original host.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > notnet
> > > Developer, Astrolink IRC Network
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Cosmin Marcu"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:59 PM
> > > Subject: [Coder-Com] +x mode (bug?)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Hello.
> > > >Today I found somenthing strange with the +x mode.
> > > >After logging in to X and seting +x mode I tried to
> > > >join a channel on which my real hostname was banned.
> > > >The strange thing is that I couldn't join even if I
> > > >had that username.users.undernet.org hostname.
> > > >Is this a bug?
> >
> >
> > --
> > James Evans
> > PGP? http://www.lehigh.edu/~jae7/pgpkey.asc
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
 

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