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>> isnt the opposed from fear = brave ?
>> and hate = love ?
>
>Merely bravery is kind of neutral, learned state, instead of kpure
>emotion:
>If we think fear is -10, bravery is plain zero. It still has no
>'positive effect', it only makes fear unnecessary. Let's take an
>abstract metaphor (emotions are quite abstracts when trying to
>'rationalize' them)
you study psychologie ? this sounds like a kelly grid matrix !
>In fourth room, there's again (surprise) a ball. You enter the room, and
>when you touch the ball, you suddenly realize there's bottle of cold
>beer of your favorite brand on the floor in front of you.
>Next day you visit that room again, and again that ball gives you bottle
>of beer.
>Now you fall in love with it, because it gives you beer.
>This is a conditional love, including *because*.
>When suddenly that ball stops giving you beer, you have no reason to
>love it. Perhaps you feel betrayed, and you become angry. You start to
>hate that ball *because* it treated you like that. (...your ego protects
>you even from nasty feelings...)
ok, now i understand what you mean with conditionalized, but conditions need allways
an update, like between two persons. i think when you have a relationship with another
person, like in love romance relations it is allways kind of condition, but changes
day to day, even second to second. the reason
to get rejected, like the ball giving you beer, could be found on different
levels. most people find the reason in the other, but you could again look
at yourself what you have done wrong or maybe a third pole comes into play
which changes the condition.
Live is change, changes in every little thing but love can never change, really.
>> >Yes, but if an individual is controlled by LOVE, instead of fear, what
>> >do you think will happen?
>> >(Actually you cannot be controlled by love from outside of you)
>>
>> maybe find a balance between.
>
>Or to get rid of the fear at all... (skipping here lifesupporting
>instincts and reasonable fears, like if there's coming towards you 20
>drunk skinheads, it's not bravery to stay at same side of street and say
>"peace, brothers" ...)
ok but there are lifesupporting instincts not so clearly seen like in your example.
>Imagined by yourself, or filtered by your ego?
whats the difference between myself and my ego ? this yourself sounds like something
like the real human of myself... something like to say we all humans
are equal, if we find the way of pure love.
>> ok when i know i am weak its better to say, before i drop down at work.
>
>Yes, but this society around us keep nags message "only loosers are
>weak", until very recently, when more and more people are dropping
>almost dead in their jobs.
and they are feared not to pay their bills if they dont work. its more the fear of
having no money, then looking weak or better lets say lazy.
>Another nasty thing is that role-model for male is still "under
>construction", men are supposed to a bit macho, wise, tender, sensitive,
>able to flirt, able to small talk, to like children, to make shitloads
>of money... what ever, but never a WEAK, that is strictly not allowed...
>while woman of course can be weak, that is even expected! ...and if
>woman is too strong, men starts to have fear...
hm.. let there roleplaying games ! you have to act right as a male in every situation.
if not you fail. i think women have this problem too.
>> ok send me your preaching talked by you as mp3 and i do the background music for it.
>>
>Heh, what you want me to preach? Read bible? ;)
>Ok, if you trade it to "without beats" remix of Final Renewal, I liked
>that base sound, especially at the end of track... I'd like to do it
>with slow beats of shamandrums...
Final Renawal mostly exists of drum sounds ! there are just one synth pad and
a synth fx sound in it.
shaman drums: maybe over a dub track. i did one track with the tape of a guy came at
me in front of a bar, and he started to preach about rastafarian wisdoms at me. that
was a nice track.
istari
