> On Nov 14, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Alan Barrett <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 14 Nov 2016, at 18:42, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> How about this:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 11.5  Ratification of policy adopted by the Board:
>>>>> (a) Any policy adopted by the Board under the provisions of Article 11.4 
>>>>> shall be submitted to the community for ratification at the next public 
>>>>> policy meeting.
>>>>> (c) Unless the PDWG chairs determine that there is consensus by the 
>>>>> community to reject said policy, the policy shall remain in force or be 
>>>>> put in force as directed by the Board.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would that work?
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, no, that doesn’t work, because the Bylaws have no concept of a PDWG 
>>>> chair or a rough consensus process.  The Bylaws say that there must be a 
>>>> Policy Development Process, but give no details about how it works.  The 
>>>> concept of a PDWG chair or co-chair, and the requirement for (rough) 
>>>> consensus is a construct of the PDP, and can be changed by adopting a new 
>>>> version of the PDP.  It would not be appropriate for the Bylaws to rely on 
>>>> something that can be changed outside the Bylaws.
>>> 
>> 
>> I see. In that case, I think the concept remains sound, but that the wording 
>> is flawed. 
>> 
>> How about:
>> 
>> Any such policy instantiated by the board shall be subject to review through 
>> the PDP at the next meeting. Such review shall be treated in the PDP as a 
>> proposal to remove the changes enacted by the board. Unless the proposal to 
>> remove the changes is adopted through the PDP, the changes enacted by the 
>> board shall remain in force until later appealed or amended through the PDP 
>> or by the board under this process.
>> 
>> In any case, actions taken under the policy in question between the time 
>> instantiated by the board and the review under the PDP shall remain valid. 
>> 
>> ----
>> 
>> Does this provide a way of codifying my idea which is compatible with the 
>> existing structure and interrelation of bylaws and PDP?
> 
> Yes, I think that works, but the notice of meeting needs to be sent tomorrow, 
> with final text for all proposed changes to the bylaws, and I am not 
> comfortable making such a change without time for comments from others.  It 
> can always be proposed in the future.

 i am still convinced this should be a matter of PDP, and we should discuss 
this in that regard. I will like to see the topic in the agenda for next PDPWG 
meeting.

—Alain



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