+1 Joshua Regards, Houssain Yas
Le dim. 1 août 2021 à 16:30, Erick Joshua Lagon <[email protected]> a écrit : > The implementation of the resource transfer policy ( > https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-003-d4#details) would > enable AFRINIC to reduce the risks in case their situation goes sideways. > However, I do not agree with an emergency policy when a transfer policy is > awaiting implementation. They should focus on that transfer policy > implementation because it is the right thing to do now. > > Regards, > Erick > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 10:55 PM Thizwilondi Malupa <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Robert , >> >> I think Andrew made a very good point, despite your argument that he is >> pushing for the transfer policy for some other reasons. Passing a >> transfer policy would by all means reduce the risk of having AFRINIC badly >> affected entirely , including this community . And I think if we have a >> transfer policy in place it will also be good for future challenges. But >> not that it will always be a solution to look at during a crisis , but it >> will be helpful to have it in case it needs to be used . I suggest you >> look at it in a way where you put the interest of the future of the >> AFRINIC mind. >> >> Regards, >> Ishmael >> >> On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 3:50 PM robert ford via Community-Discuss < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Typical of Andrew about transfer of rights. He clearly knows what he >>> would use such transfer policy for. >>> >>> Glad rightful thinking members of African Internet community understand >>> the baits >>> >>> RF >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 1 Aug 2021, at 15:44, Lamiaa Chnayti <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> It makes absolute sense to pass a resource transfer policy that gives >>> the resource members the option of not getting dragged along the risky mess >>> AFRINIC is putting them through. >>> >>> But I don’t see the necessity of passing an emergency policy when we >>> already have a resource transfer policy that has been discussed and has >>> achieved consensus before, so it only makes sense that the board ratifies >>> the *AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT04.* >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Lamiaa CHNAYTI >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 13:39, Andrew Alston via Community-Discuss < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their >>>> powers and pass a transfer policy. >>>> >>>> Let those who wish to run the risks of staying with AfriNIC through >>>> this situation do so - let those who choose not to accept the risk profile >>>> transfer out - problem solved. >>>> >>>> It is entirely within the boards powers to pass emergency policy which >>>> the community can revoke at the next pdp should they wish to do so - and if >>>> AfriNIC has the support claimed by members of this list there is absolutely >>>> zero risk in this approach. >>>> >>>> Furthermore - such an approach would also remove the possibility of >>>> other legal action which may be taken against them on grounds removed from >>>> the current legal situation >>>> >>>> I remind everyone that AfriNIC has a duty to act in the interests of >>>> its members - and AfriNIC has repeatedly stated in the press - and has been >>>> echoed by various ISP associations that there is risk here - it should >>>> therefore stand that AfriNIC provide members with a way to mitigate said >>>> risk if it is within their powers to do so >>>> >>>> Again - a personal view - and again - I explicitly will not comment on >>>> the merits or demerits of this case - since I believe that the legal system >>>> should run its course and be the final arbiter of what is correct in this >>>> situation. In fact I find the amount of legal posturing on this list to be >>>> nothing short of bizarre - let the courts do their work - but let members >>>> mitigate their risks as they see fit >>>> >>>> >>>> Andrew >>>> >>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Taiwo Oye <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 1, 2021 3:00:32 PM >>>> *To:* Paul Wollner <[email protected]> >>>> *Cc:* arin-discuss <[email protected]>; secretariat < >>>> [email protected]>; Community Discuss <[email protected]>; >>>> apnic-talk <[email protected]>; ripe-list <[email protected]>; >>>> Members Discuss <[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service >>>> migration to other RIRs >>>> >>>> Good day all, >>>> >>>> I think paul made some sense in his first statement (tho the statement >>>> has been watered down now). >>>> >>>> If afrinic is in a financial fix or in a state where it is tending >>>> towards a financial situation where it can no longer perform its duties, it >>>> is only right to start weighing all viable options to keep the registry >>>> afloat. >>>> Paul made a suggestion - tho a bit aggressively - about the NRO coming >>>> to save the region. >>>> I will like the community to see this as “option 1”. >>>> >>>> Does any other community member have any better suggestion in the (not >>>> so likely) situation that afrinic does not have the financial capability to >>>> carry out its duties? >>>> >>>> If so, please lay them out for discussion amongst the community >>>> members. >>>> >>>> If not, Option 1 remains the only alternative to cushion the effect of >>>> the financial breakdown. >>>> >>>> That being said. I think we should think in the direction of way >>>> forward and have a plan ready rather than crucifying Paul for being >>>> proactive. >>>> >>>> On Aug 1, 2021, at 11:01, Paul Wollner <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello community >>>> >>>> I think I misused the word “take over” to spike some unfortunate >>>> sentiments. >>>> >>>> Let me try this again: >>>> In the interest of internet continuity, another RIR should help AFRINIC >>>> (by staff or infrastructure), to perform it’s core registration service >>>> function for the time being, until all AFRINIC litigation has been sorted >>>> to avoid disruption to our African end users and businesses. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---- On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:38:32 +0200 *Paul Wollner >>>> <[email protected] <[email protected]>>* >>>> wrote ---- >>>> >>>> Apologies for the duplicate post, but the initial posting was too >>>> large. >>>> >>>> The concerns expressed by TISPA, as well as other concerned parties and >>>> especially by AFRINIC's own admission in the news outlet lexpress.mu, >>>> which is available at https://ibb.co/tmWCk0k, regarding the AFRINIC’s >>>> inability to keep providing its core registry functions due to its >>>> inability to meet its financial requirements. >>>> >>>> I suggest that in order not hold end users, ISPs and any other >>>> business's hostage, for the interest of continue service of AFRINIC’s core >>>> registry service, we should urgently call for NRO fulfil their >>>> responsibility as well as commitment to the global internet to take over >>>> AFRINIC’s registration service for the time being, until litigation is >>>> settled some time later. ( >>>> https://www.nro.net/accountability/rir-accountability/joint-rir-stability-fund/ >>>> ) >>>> >>>> That way, no end user or business will ever impacted however results >>>> come out of litigation. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Paul Wollner >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Community-Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Community-Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >> > _______________________________________________ > Community-Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss >
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