--On Monday, December 2, 2002 8:39 AM +0100 Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't think we are talking about complete personal websites with blogs and such, with rants and honeymoon pictures, but about some pages that explain what the person does, who he is, and not much more.
Of course we are. We're saying that anyone can post whatever they want on their apache.org site. That's what I'm against. I don't want people posting their honeymoon pictures or their Beanie Babies collection. But, as soon as we say, 'you can post whatever you want,' that's what is going to happen. Saying otherwise is foolish.
I agree with Nicola Ken. We *are* talking about different things. Stefano proposed a short bio, picture, etc. (Although, to date I have not had a significant problem with people mispronouncing my name). You are objecting to Beanie Babies. If it will help further consensus, I will object to Beanie Babies too.
Unfortunately, Roy's site is sort of an example of what I don't want to see. However, what I believe Sam hasn't realized is that Roy *just* moved his site there from the UCI servers while he looks for a new home for his web site. (Roy will correct me if I'm wrong.) I trust Roy not to post anything inappropriate, so I'm not going to complain because I believe it's temporary. Yet, not every committer has earned my trust in the way Roy has.
I trust Roy too, and find absolutely nothing offensive or counter to the goals of the ASF in his page. To the contrary, I believe that it is helpful for people to get to know their board members, the ASF membership in general, and peers. Is it a complete solution? Certainly not. But it is a start.
Furthermore, I tend to start out from a position of trust. This certainly can benefit from being coupled with a little bit of education. Perhaps the incubator could help educate people that these pages are a community resource and that people should be mindful of putting content out there that might damage the ASF.
Justin, if you would like to put forward a set of rules, guidelines, and suggest an enforcement mechanism, I would be inclined to endorse it if it would further consensus.
And, what Andy is missing is that with a DNS alias, there would now be an implicit approval of these sites. Furthermore, there would be a directory of people who have sites publically linked. Right now, there is no such approval or directory.
There is such a directory for members. And I'm pleased to report that I have yet to come across a Beanie Baby in any of the links I have visited.
Now there is a directory for committers (several, actually). Let's combine the best from each, adding guidelines where necessary, and move forward.
- Sam Ruby
