On 26 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote:

> Because this is not what's happening. Sam is trying to force a
> collalition because of some sense of "Rightness". We would like to be
> left alone and if a natural level of cooperation emerges in time so be
> it. But it shouldn't be dictated from the start which is the impression
> I'm getting.

I am not sure why you are jumping at specifically Sam's throath.

At more than one occasion has he offered to abstain from voiting in cases
like this.

Most of this thread seems to be driven my a very carefully worded remark
from Noel - who rightfully pointed out that there is a fair amounth of
overlap in the jar repository activities, the ant building tool and the
Maven building tool. And that perhaps some sort of coordination or
collaboration would be good for everyone - and eventually beneficial for
the whole ASF community.

A board can help in a coordinating role to make these things happen. If
Sam is suggesting ways for groups to work together - then I think that is
good - and valuable.

It reminds me of a dutch expression for which I do not know the US
equivalent - such as the trust of the host is in his guests - for so much
can he trust his guests.

Dw




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