Thanks, Clark. I think I understand, now. If you don't mind, I think 
I'll just stick with what I've known and used for so long, even though I 
now know it is techically inaccurate. I fear yu've got a long, uphill 
battle trying to convince Apple, Belkin, Mouser, et. al., to change 
their practice.  ;-)

Regards,
        Sp00ky

Clark Martin wrote:
> At 11:08 PM -0400 5/30/02, the pickle wrote:
> 
>>At 22:02 -0500 on 30/05/02, Spiritus ex Machina wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I wrote that first comment. I know the difference between a DB-9, a
>>>DIN-8, and an ADB port. What I wrote was DB-9 and what I meant was DB-9.
>>
>>And what Clark said was that you really meant DE-9, because DB-9, while
>>understood, is technically incorrect :)
>>
>>Kinda how (shoot, now I forget - Clark, help me out here) the Mac's
>>external SCSI connector is really a DA-25, not a DB-25, but everyone calls
>>it a DB-25 anyway.
> 
> No, it is a DB-25.
> 
> The standard D type connectors you find are:
> 
> DA-15
> DB-25
> DC-37
> DD-50
> DE-9
> 
> 
> A real DB-9 would have the shell of a DB-25 with 9 pins.  Such a 
> thing could exist but it would typically have some or all of the 9 
> pins are either coax or higher current capacity, either of which 
> would be physically larger than standard D type pins.
> 
> I've worked a little with some of the odd ball types but they are 
> pretty rare.  The only common one around is the Sun video connector, 
> a DB-13 I think, also known as a W-13 (again, I think).  It's the 
> kind used on some Sun equipment and Apple Two Page Displays and one 
> page displays.
> 
> The standard VGA connector is another, it would properly be known as a DE-15.
> 
> As an Electrical Engineer I have spec'ed out the various D type 
> connectors so it  is an area I'm intimately familiar with.  As I 
> said, it's a minor nit pick of mine.  When computer vendors started 
> list them as DB-9 or DB-15 it bothered me for the simple reason that 
> they are wrong.

-- 
   Spiritus ex Machina
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