That is what I meant. Sorry about that. I wrote that early in the morning before my brain woke up.
-----Original Message----- From: Compact Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of videoking Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:02 PM To: Compact Macs Subject: Re: eh, what is this se/30 card on eBay? > The SE30, even without a color card of any brand, > can print in color as it has QuickTime programmed into the rom. sorry to correct you, but i dont think it has quicktime in its rom.... guess you mean color quickdraw..... michael Am Mittwoch, 05.11.03, um 15:58 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > What makes the Micron Xceed card attractive is it's ability to display > 256k > gray scale on the existing interior monitor. External color cards for > the > SE30 are not that rare. I have, and have run across, several different > models. The one I have is probably the most common next to the Radius > cards, > a Lapis SE30 Server color card that will display on an external Mac or > VGA > color monitor. I picked it up for $30 on ebay a year ago. It came new > in box > with software and manuals. The SE30, even without a color card of any > brand, > can print in color as it has QuickTime programmed into the rom. I hope > your > friend does get top dollar for his card. But don't get his hopes up too > high. The only ones I see going for high dollar amounts, are the ones > that > allow internal grayscale display. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Compact Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > J.S. Garrison > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:13 PM > To: Compact Macs > Subject: Re: eh, what is this se/30 card on eBay? > > > on 11/4/03 7:25 PM, Bryan Kattwinkel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> on 11/4/03 3:09 AM, Mark Koan wrote: >> >>> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ > eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2763759187&category=4610 >>> >>> IS what he's saying true? What would this really trade >>> for on the list? >> >> It's just a garden-variety Mac video card that happens to be made for >> the >> SE/30 expansion slot. Any such card would work in color, require no >> drivers, and turn on quickly; none of that is remarkable or >> indicative of >> "acceleration". The Radius Pivot card for the SE/30 has all these >> features, plus the ability to drive pivot monitors. >> > > The more I'm reading, the more you accidentally tend to prove my point. > How many Compact Mac owners have a Radius Pivot card lying around? > A show of hands, please..... > >> On one point he is definitely wrong; there is no way a card made for >> the >> SE/30 would work in an SE; the expansion slots are different. > > There are no distinguishing marks on the card. Opening an SE of mine, I > discovered the slot in side it is a different length. I'll retract that > statement in the auction. > >> A lot of hardware for the compact Macs is not described on the >> internet, >> since it is all older than the world wide web. Rare? maybe just not >> very >> popular. From our perspective, the ability to use a "standard" monitor >> seems valuable, but back then the really big full page and dual page >> monochrome monitors were much more attractive for desktop publishing. > > So far, I've been only unable to find anything about Dove, and this > Memory Plus video card. Bear in mind, I believe the card will work > with any > non-multisync monitor with a DB 15 connector up to, say, 21 inches? > >> Such a device would not be worth more than $10 or $15 to me. > > All well and good. I stand by my original postulation in that regard. > I'm selling it for a medically challenged friend. They deserve top > dollar. > > Considering that, where color is present on the hard disk, an SE/30 can > produce a quick, non-lagging non-system-slowing color image at 256 > colors > using this card and a standard DB15 monitor, I'll keep calling it an > excellent alternative to the No-Longer-Available Micron Exceed. > > Jeff > > > -- > Compact Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/>. > > Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> > > Compact Macs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml> > --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; > Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Archive:<http://www.mail-archive.com/ > compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- >> The Think Different Store > http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > Compact Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/>. > > Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> > > Compact Macs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml> > --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; > Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Archive:<http://www.mail-archive.com/ > compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- >> The Think Different Store > http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com > --------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Compact Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/>. 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