According to the American University of Beirut, http://cns.aub.edu.lb/cns/helpdesk/knowledgebase/mail-web/asmtp/ Eudora Pro & Light version 5.2, Eudora version 4.3 and above.
Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr.O.M.Betz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Compact Macs" <compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: Re: ASMTP? > >At 8:27 AM -0500 2/15/05, Brian wrote: > <snip> > >>The problem I recently had (posted on another list) was that you > >>often need *2* types of authentication going now, for SMTP access. > >>And I was using a client that only did one of them well, and a > >>second not quite right. > >> > >>SMTP Auth is the traditional one, and I'm fairly certain Eudora 3 > >>can do that. It's just login/password authentication, not encrypted. > >> > >>But providers now are also insisting on SSL connections (like https > >>is secured) to send via their SMTP servers, especially if you are > >>coming from an IP that isn't one of "theirs" (thinking broadband, > >>here). I'm rathersure Eudora 3 can't do SSL, and even Eudora 5 is a > >>little quirky (I had to upgrade my laptop to Eudora 6 as 5.1 wasn't > >>current enough for comcast, my provider). > > > <snip> > > > >> > >>So, I'm guessing you are having SSL issues not SMTP Auth issues, > >>really. That's just a guess. We need your OS and maybe your > >>provider info to be able to tell you more or recommend anything. > > > >I just started using SSL and had some problems getting it to work. > >It turned out that I needed to use the TLS 1.0 option in SSL to get > >it to work. > > > >-- > >Clark Martin > >Redwood City, CA, USA > >Macintosh / Internet Consulting > > Thanks everybody for the input. I'm getting aware of the ambiguity of the > word "authentication" because in some environments it seems to be a term of > general usage and in others it designates a very specific way of proving to > be the one you pretend to be. First off, surely you are right that the > usability of a software depends on the OS used. But I am after a "one size > fits all" solution, like Eudora 3.1.3 runs on my SE/30 with 7.5.5 as well > as it does on a G4 with 9.2.2; you bet I've been through the whole of the > "settings" menu looking for a possibility to find additional authentication > for sending, but the only instance where the word appears is in the > "checking mail" subset (Passwords vs. Kerberos vs. APOP), and there is no > such in the "sending mail" menu. When I fire up Eudora to check mail, it > sends my user ID and password to my ISP which is T-Online aka btx.dtag.de, > and this is all I need for sending mail from my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account. > The POP server asks for a special password, of course. My other accounts at > Freenet and GMX let me check mail with my respective password but they > don't allow me to send mail with my usual Eudora settings but require a > ASMTP setup (which, as far as my little understanding goes, has nothing to > do with SSL; sorry Brian, but secure socket layer is a browser thing in my > small world of telecommunication. Please correct me if I'm wrong.). Hence > my question about an ASMTP-capable eMail client; it should be simple, > text-only, bullet-proof, run from 7.1 up if possible and be capable to brew > a decent cup of tea ;-) . O.K., a real thing doing ASMTP as a mere > additional password prompt on a send command would be just fine, OS as you > like... > > Just another thought: I dislike the kind of communication different > versions of Eudora have with each other. I ended up trashing all versions > of Eudora 5 and 6 I had installed for trial because they always jumped in > when I started different setups of Eudora 3, trying to use Eudora 3's > settings and f...ing my whole eMail environment up. Maybe the basic idea > was to facilitate "upgrades" to bloatware (read: more ads) but it turned > out as a PITA. > > I'll check for QuickMail. Don't know if there ever was a RFC for ASMTP, but > I'll check that, too; you may be right there, Jack. Moving up the Eudora > line isn't necessarily progress, that's one thing I learned. But I'll try > to check out if they introduced ASMTP at some point in time. > > Thanks for all, folks. I'll report any, even moderate, success. > > Cheers, OM > > > /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign > \ / No HTML/RTF in email > X No Word docs in email > / \ Respect for open standards > > > > -- > Compact Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/>. > > Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> > > Compact Macs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml> > --> AOL users, remove "mailto:" > Send list messages to: <mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com> > To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Archive:<http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > iPod Accessories for Less > at 1-800-iPOD.COM > Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal > www.1800ipod.com > --------------------------------------------------------------- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/>. 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