>At 8:27 AM -0500 2/15/05, Brian wrote: <snip> >>The problem I recently had (posted on another list) was that you >>often need *2* types of authentication going now, for SMTP access. >>And I was using a client that only did one of them well, and a >>second not quite right. >> >>SMTP Auth is the traditional one, and I'm fairly certain Eudora 3 >>can do that. It's just login/password authentication, not encrypted. >> >>But providers now are also insisting on SSL connections (like https >>is secured) to send via their SMTP servers, especially if you are >>coming from an IP that isn't one of "theirs" (thinking broadband, >>here). I'm rathersure Eudora 3 can't do SSL, and even Eudora 5 is a >>little quirky (I had to upgrade my laptop to Eudora 6 as 5.1 wasn't >>current enough for comcast, my provider). > <snip> > >> >>So, I'm guessing you are having SSL issues not SMTP Auth issues, >>really. That's just a guess. We need your OS and maybe your >>provider info to be able to tell you more or recommend anything. > >I just started using SSL and had some problems getting it to work. >It turned out that I needed to use the TLS 1.0 option in SSL to get >it to work. > >-- >Clark Martin >Redwood City, CA, USA >Macintosh / Internet Consulting
Thanks everybody for the input. I'm getting aware of the ambiguity of the word "authentication" because in some environments it seems to be a term of general usage and in others it designates a very specific way of proving to be the one you pretend to be. First off, surely you are right that the usability of a software depends on the OS used. But I am after a "one size fits all" solution, like Eudora 3.1.3 runs on my SE/30 with 7.5.5 as well as it does on a G4 with 9.2.2; you bet I've been through the whole of the "settings" menu looking for a possibility to find additional authentication for sending, but the only instance where the word appears is in the "checking mail" subset (Passwords vs. Kerberos vs. APOP), and there is no such in the "sending mail" menu. When I fire up Eudora to check mail, it sends my user ID and password to my ISP which is T-Online aka btx.dtag.de, and this is all I need for sending mail from my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account. The POP server asks for a special password, of course. My other accounts at Freenet and GMX let me check mail with my respective password but they don't allow me to send mail with my usual Eudora settings but require a ASMTP setup (which, as far as my little understanding goes, has nothing to do with SSL; sorry Brian, but secure socket layer is a browser thing in my small world of telecommunication. Please correct me if I'm wrong.). Hence my question about an ASMTP-capable eMail client; it should be simple, text-only, bullet-proof, run from 7.1 up if possible and be capable to brew a decent cup of tea ;-) . O.K., a real thing doing ASMTP as a mere additional password prompt on a send command would be just fine, OS as you like... Just another thought: I dislike the kind of communication different versions of Eudora have with each other. I ended up trashing all versions of Eudora 5 and 6 I had installed for trial because they always jumped in when I started different setups of Eudora 3, trying to use Eudora 3's settings and f...ing my whole eMail environment up. Maybe the basic idea was to facilitate "upgrades" to bloatware (read: more ads) but it turned out as a PITA. I'll check for QuickMail. Don't know if there ever was a RFC for ASMTP, but I'll check that, too; you may be right there, Jack. Moving up the Eudora line isn't necessarily progress, that's one thing I learned. But I'll try to check out if they introduced ASMTP at some point in time. Thanks for all, folks. I'll report any, even moderate, success. Cheers, OM /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / No HTML/RTF in email X No Word docs in email / \ Respect for open standards -- Compact Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/>. Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Compact Macs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive:<http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --------------------------------------------------------------- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---------------------------------------------------------------
