Hey guys,

You may be right that nobody would look. It's more the
administration at the school that's concerned, and
they want me to make sure the data's absolutely gone.
I just want to leave on a good note so I'm doing what
they want of me.

The one machine I know that I will probably have to do
the complete wipe to is the French teacher's, as she
always wrote personal notes to doctors and whatnot on
it. Maybe I should see if there's anything that looks
confidential on the computers and tag those to be
wiped. The group I get to wipe this afernoon came from
a chem lab. These are probably fine, as I know that
basically all that was loaded on them was HyperCard
and a few science department things (that may have
helped me in high school chem--one of my weaker
subjects back in the day). I just know that the one
computer I wipe normally will be the one in a million
that gets hacked...it's another application of
Murphy's Law, which seems to affect our IT department.

I have an old version of Norton that I can use for the
older Macs (LC 550's in particular) and I guess the
rest of them I can zero the data with Drive Setup if
the drive looks like it's got personal stuff. Anything
that has a title such as "Letter to Dr. Smith" is
reason for wiping, as is anything that may say
"Faculty Social Security Numbers" or "Mrs. Brown's
Christmas Card List".

I do have twenty Macs from the SE on up coming in from
an outside source, and some of these were home
machines. They'll get wiped no matter what.

Scott

--- Nat Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> These are all very good techniques to use if you are
> really worried 
> about it.  But do you really want to spend the time?
>  Not to say I 
> don't completely respect the ideals of protecting
> what is considered 
> private information.
> 
> First, I think it comes back to John Niven's point
> about anybody 
> actually bothering.  And if they did, what is the
> most damaging 
> information that could be recovered?  Student
> grades? Who is going to 
> care except for the student in question?
> 
> A while back I inherited 40 Macintosh computers
> (mostly SEs) from the 
> University of Washington when they decided to clean
> house.  The folks 
> at the UW did not even bother to wipe the disks at
> all.  I acquired 40 
> university computers with disks full of student,
> teacher, and personnel 
> information combined with various reports, essays,
> and recommendation 
> letters.   Most of the machines belonged to teachers
> evidently, but 
> there were a few lab machines in the mix.
> 
> In the midst of all this, there is virtually no
> information at all that 
> could be used to any ill end.  Even on the teachers
> computers', the 
> worst thing I found was on a Centris 650 that
> obviously had belonged to 
> an administrator of some sort that listed various
> professors' salaries 
> from 1986 through 1991.  While mildly educational on
> the average 
> Radiology professor's salary 20 years ago, there was
> little else the 
> information could be used for aside for satisfying
> the urge to be 
> really nosey.
> 
> No SS or credit card numbers, or bank information. 
> Names and 
> addresses, sure, but you can get those looking in
> the phonebook, no?  I 
> ended up wiping most of them myself.  Even if I had
> wanted to, it would 
> have taken forever to look at everything on 40
> different computer 
> systems.
> 
> anyway, the point is, I would not worry about
> wasting large amounts of 
> time doing "Government-level" wipes on a bunch of
> school computers when 
> it's 99% probable they don't contain much
> information that could be 
> used for anything damaging. If you know for a fact
> some of them might 
> have been used to store credit card information or
> things of that 
> nature, I would concentrate my time doing thorough
> wipes of those 
> particular disks and settle with regular formats on
> the rest of them.  
> Though I find the possibility of any 'bad'
> information highly unlikely 
> if these are computers from any kind of public
> school system.  
> Especially if a large university didn't even see it
> worth their time to 
> wipe anything.
> 
> The bottom line is most people don't care enough to
> try.  And if they 
> do, they're going to be wasting their time.  After
> all, it's not like 
> these are computers from some kind of accounting
> office.
> 
> -Nat
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, July 6, 2005, at 08:34 PM, Peter da
> Silva wrote:
> 
> >> What would be a way to completely erase these
> drives
> >> so some undelete utility wouldn't pick up
> anything
> >> from our school?
> >
> > So long as you aren't worried about someone
> disassembling the drives
> > so they can use analog techniques...
> >
> > If you just delete everything THEN fill the disk
> up with a bunch
> > of files from another disk, and do that a couple
> of times, it's
> > gonna be pretty unlikely there will be any
> unscrambled sectors
> > containing useful info.
> >
> > You can try that and then run your undeleter and
> see what's left.
> >
> >
> 
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