Gian-Carlo,

We could probably add this new version to the mix and extend the
study.    But what kind of data has your own testing produced?   Do you
have an indication that it is roughly as strong at the same basic time
setting (because of it's being 3X faster or so?)

Even if it isn't,  it would still be interesting to see if the line is
parallel.    It might indicate, for instance, that some simplified
hardware implementation of play-outs could be competitive. 

- Don


Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> the result of the scalability study at
>
> http://cgos.boardspace.net/study/13/index.html
>
> seems to look a lot like 2 parallel lines over the entire range, which
> I find very surprising, since I'd have expected at least some
> differences caused by different playout strategies.
>
> I am now wondering if scalability could be unaffected by playouts
> (just adding a constant offset) and only depend on the UCT/search
> implementation. From the publications of the MoGo team it seems likely
> that the programs are very similar there.
>
> I am able to provide a Leela version that is identical to the one
> currently used in the study, but with light (uniform random) playouts
> (and being about 3 times as fast).
>
> I think it would be very interesting to see the behaviour of this.
> IMHO it would provide deeper understanding in how the combination of
> MC/UCT works. The critical question is if we would get another
> parallel line, indicating that the search is the key to further
> progress, or if we would get a line with a different steepness,
> indicating playouts are the key. Or maybe the two are more strongly
> linked and both contribute. Either way I believe more data would be
> usefull.
>
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