Don wrote:
> It could be a matter of style as you say, not a matter of strength.

Right.


> My main questions is whether it's been established as true that Zen
> really plays poorly and Many Faces is brilliant against mirror go.
> Or does it just seem that way based on casual observation?

Right.

Especially, by reasons of time I played only very few 19x19 mirror
games. Most of my test games (more than 20 against MF, some against Leela)
were on 9x9, 11x11, and 13x13. Perhaps (based on casual observation,
again) mirror strategy is more difficult for the bots on larger
boards. And for Zen I only know the 2 games from KGS.


> ... I think I see a trend or a pattern based on a few games
> but it turns out to be just my imagination or low sample size. 
> Humans have wonderful pattern recognition, but it's well know[n] 
> that we easily find patterns where they don't exist too.

Agreed.

Therefore I really like the test series by Yamato (with 30 out of
100 wins for Zen against mirror strategy)

> Can we assume that both programs are approximately equal or is MFGO
> clearly stronger (or visa versa?)

In "normal" go (on KGS) Zen seems to be ahead of all other programs on
moderate hardware. 
Mirror go seems to be a world of its own...

Ingo.

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