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<[email protected]>, Don
Dailey <[email protected]> writes
A fair way to deal with komi doesn't require even knowing what is
correct, just play games in pairs. You get white and black against
all players you are paired with. Of course that would probably
require a change to the server - and it would double the lengths of the
tournaments.
The server does support what you propose, in a limited way. If I
specify the tournament format as "Round Robin", and the number of rounds
as "2", it operates a double round robin, in which each pair of
opponents plays twice, though not consecutively. And after the changes
currently being tested, the colours will alternate.
Nick
Don
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Nick Wedd <[email protected]> wrote:
I first thought of using 7 komi for kgs 9x9 bot tournaments during a
discussion with Olivier Teytaud. He is planning to hold the 13x13
and 19x19 Computer Go events, in the EGC in Bordeaux this summer, on
KGS, using its tournament scheduler. He was not planning to use it
for 9x9 because, as he wrote, "the random pairing in 9x9 is a
disaster; it's clear that having white is better in 9x9 Go with komi
7.5, so the games might become a coin toss".
I suggested that if 7.5 is too much, he could use 7. I decided to
test this, and offer the bots some practice, by running some 9x9
events with 7 komi on KGS. But two things have happened to make
this irrelevant: Olivier has told me that he is not willing to use 7
komi, and the disastrous random pairing has been fixed - or will
have been, when the current beta-test version of KGS is installed in
place of the current version.
The 9x9 beta-test tournament that I ran on Thursday shows what is
likely to happen if one bot understands integer komi while the other
does not. GNU Go version 3.7 and Orego12 played each other six
times. Orego is clearly the better player. The three times that
Orego was black, it won by 2 points. The three times that Orego was
white, the result was jigo.
However, several people have expressed interest in a 9x9 event with
integer komi. If a majority of likely entrants is in favour, the
next 9x9 KGS monthly bot tournament, on April 3rd, will use a komi
of 7. Please send your votes "for integer komi of 7" or "against
integer komi of 7" to me at maproom @ gmail dot com. I will treat
the votes as confidential.
Nick
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