On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Nick Wedd <[email protected]> wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>, > Don Dailey <[email protected]> writes > > A fair way to deal with komi doesn't require even knowing what is >> correct, just play games in pairs. You get white and black against >> all players you are paired with. Of course that would probably >> require a change to the server - and it would double the lengths of the >> tournaments. >> > > The server does support what you propose, in a limited way. If I specify > the tournament format as "Round Robin", and the number of rounds as "2", it > operates a double round robin, in which each pair of opponents plays twice, > though not consecutively. And after the changes currently being tested, the > colours will alternate. > I always hoped that you would have more round robins, although I admit that I have not participated in a long time. But Lazarus still works - I might consider it just for fun although Lazarus would probably now be one of the weakest programs. Don > > Nick > > >> Don >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Nick Wedd <[email protected]> wrote: >> I first thought of using 7 komi for kgs 9x9 bot tournaments during a >> discussion with Olivier Teytaud. He is planning to hold the 13x13 >> and 19x19 Computer Go events, in the EGC in Bordeaux this summer, on >> KGS, using its tournament scheduler. He was not planning to use it >> for 9x9 because, as he wrote, "the random pairing in 9x9 is a >> disaster; it's clear that having white is better in 9x9 Go with komi >> 7.5, so the games might become a coin toss". >> >> I suggested that if 7.5 is too much, he could use 7. I decided to >> test this, and offer the bots some practice, by running some 9x9 >> events with 7 komi on KGS. But two things have happened to make >> this irrelevant: Olivier has told me that he is not willing to use 7 >> komi, and the disastrous random pairing has been fixed - or will >> have been, when the current beta-test version of KGS is installed in >> place of the current version. >> >> The 9x9 beta-test tournament that I ran on Thursday shows what is >> likely to happen if one bot understands integer komi while the other >> does not. GNU Go version 3.7 and Orego12 played each other six >> times. Orego is clearly the better player. The three times that >> Orego was black, it won by 2 points. The three times that Orego was >> white, the result was jigo. >> >> However, several people have expressed interest in a 9x9 event with >> integer komi. If a majority of likely entrants is in favour, the >> next 9x9 KGS monthly bot tournament, on April 3rd, will use a komi >> of 7. Please send your votes "for integer komi of 7" or "against >> integer komi of 7" to me at maproom @ gmail dot com. I will treat >> the votes as confidential. >> >> >> Nick >> -- >> Nick Wedd [email protected] >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > > -- > Nick Wedd [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >
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