On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Daniel Shawul <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have two forms of pondering (thinking like the opponent OR predicting > opponent move and thinking for ours). > None of them brought me significant benefit which i suspect is due to the > vast amount of good options and > the fact that MC can pick any of them randomly. > I think you did something wrong then, because it is very helpful in go. You should easily see the equivalent of 30 or 40 ELO and would need only a few hundred games to clearly identify this as an improvement. Don > > > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Aja <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello Ingo, >> >> Time management algorithms, like pondering, is one of the major topics in >> my thesis. I have proved by the expeirments, though with fast time setting, >> that pondering brings a lot of strength. >> >> Aja >> >> -----原始郵件----- From: "Ingo Althöfer" >> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 3:09 PM >> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to Zen! >> >> Did or can you make self-play experiments with MF, >> the copies running on two different machines? >> >> - one with pondering >> - the other without >> >> Perhaps such experiments also on smaller board sizes >> (9x9, 11x11, 13x13) might give insights on scaling. >> >> Ingo (is not a programmer, >> but wants to know everything from the programmers) >> >> >> Von: "David Fotland" <[email protected]> >>> >>> I didn’t test pondering, so I have no answer for you. I just make the >>> computer's move and do a search for the opponent while he is thinking, >>> and >>> hope there is some interesting cached data after he makes his move. I >>> don’t >>> have a tree, just a huge transposition table, so anything useful that >>> happens to be searched will still be there. >>> >>> David >>> >> >> -- >> NEU: FreePhone - kostenlos mobil telefonieren und surfen! >> Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >
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