> One advantage however to involving a lot of people and their computers is that > I COULD do the study out to enormous numbers of playouts, given enough help.
Going beyond 8M playouts/move would only be useful, in my opinion, if we can test stronger programs. It's not as bad as self play, but you don't learn much from beating a weaker opponent more than 95% of the time. I would love to be able to play thousands of games against Zen, which is currently about 2 stones stronger than Pachi. Also it's not enough to double playouts you must also double memory usage, and you may have trouble finding enough machines with terabytes of ram. > I would probably have multiple instance of EACH program, not a single fixed > opponent for one program but that does require a lot more games. Same problem. Beating multiple weaker programs won't tell you much. We need multiple stronger programs. Jean-loup
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