Jean-loup Gailly: <[email protected]>:
>> One advantage however to involving a lot of people and their computers is
>that
>> I COULD do the study out to enormous numbers of playouts,  given enough
>help.
>
>Going beyond 8M playouts/move would only be useful, in my opinion, if we can
>test
>stronger programs. It's not as bad as self play, but you don't learn much
>from beating
>a weaker opponent more than 95% of the time. I would love to be able to play
>thousands
>of games against Zen, which is currently about 2 stones stronger than Pachi.

Unfortunatelly, copying the executable binary of Zen to other machines 
is not allowed by the contract...

Hideki

>Also it's not enough to double playouts you must also double memory usage,
>and you
>may have trouble finding enough machines with terabytes of ram.
>
>> I would probably have multiple instance of EACH program,  not a single
>fixed
>> opponent for one program but that does require a lot more games.
>
>Same problem. Beating multiple weaker programs won't tell you much. We need
>multiple stronger programs.
>
>Jean-loup
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