i think that if it's "exactly the same code" during the entire tournament, then it's a reasonable restriction. but i realize that that's a minor issue in the big picture. "exactly the same code" forever would be a very weird restriction indeed.
s. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Jason House <[email protected]> wrote: > The "exactly the same code" requirement is kind of silly. People get better > and worse over time, as do bots with changing code. The only real issue I see > is if a bot enters with a serious bug that then gets fixed. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 9, 2011, at 7:22 PM, David Doshay <[email protected]> wrote: > >> At the Portland Congress the situation reared its ugly (in minds of some >> folks at the meeting) head. Alan, the President of the AGA is fine with >> developing a procedure for ranking bots. At that time it was suggested that >> AGA members with solid ratings would volunteer to play bots a fixed number >> of times to set their rank. I tried to get people on this list involved in >> the testing of bots for this purpose, but there were no volunteers. >> >> I believe that the previous head of the ratings system (who was pretty >> strongly against rating programs) is no longer in that position. He raised >> issues about "exactly the same code that was ranked" and was not receptive >> to the idea that people make adjustments to the way they view the game too. >> >> Are there enough ranked AGA members on this list that I can raise the issue >> within the AGA again and we can get some bots rated this time? Are authors >> interested enough in getting AGA ratings to do this? >> >> I am willing to be the point person on this effort if there is enough desire >> to make it happen. >> >> Cheers, >> David >> >> >> >> On 9, Aug 2011, at 4:04 PM, terry mcintyre wrote: >> >>> Why not ask for volunteers with known AGA ratings to play games in KGS >>> under tournament conditions with the top bots? You can use the KGS playing >>> interface without trusting the KGS rating system. >>> >>> Terry McIntyre <[email protected]> >>> >>> Unix/Linux Systems Administration >>> Taking time to do it right saves having to do it twice. >> >>> From: David Doshay <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 6:57 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] KGS highest rank Bot >>> >>> ... >>> At this time games played against bots do not have any effect upon your AGA >>> ranking. The problem from the perspective of the guy who was in charge of >>> the AGA ranking system is that there is no uniform way of giving a program >>> its rating. He is completely against using KGS ratings because on the >>> internet people can hide behind fake names and can game their ratings in >>> various ways. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> David >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > _______________________________________________ Computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
