I agree completely, and I only mentioned that to demonstrate the kinds of walls 
being put up by the (I believe) previous head of the AGA rating system. His 
proposal would require a full "many games against several rated players" at 
each code change, and I am sure that everybody on this list would find that 
anywhere from silly to bizarre.

But if there is in fact a new person in charge of the ratings system, we might 
not be up against that.

Cheers,
David



On 9, Aug 2011, at 5:01 PM, Jason House wrote:

> The "exactly the same code" requirement is kind of silly. People get better 
> and worse over time, as do bots with changing code. The only real issue I see 
> is if a bot enters with a serious bug that then gets fixed. 

On 9, Aug 2011, at 5:01 PM, Dave Dyer wrote:

> 
>> "exactly the same code that was ranked" 
> 
> This is not a reasonable requirement. 
> 
> Ratings are a crude tool; it's not worthwhile to try to nail them
> down beyond a rough range.  Certainly there will be occasions where
> programs true ratings slip due to "improvements" in the software,
> or improvements in their opponents' understanding of their weaknesses.
> 
> Humans get "code" upgrades and downgrades all the time, it's called learning.
> You just take it on faith that the human is still more or less the same from
> one day to the next.  The same should apply to programs.
> 

On 9, Aug 2011, at 5:07 PM, steve uurtamo wrote:

> i think that if it's "exactly the same code" during the entire
> tournament, then it's a reasonable restriction. but i realize that
> that's a minor issue in the big picture. "exactly the same code"
> forever would be a very weird restriction indeed.

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