Hi Brian; thanks for sharing these results. I'll try to post here results in Kyu / Dan. For the first results I've seen it's a bit surprising to me; in 9x9 very small numbers of simulations have unexpectedly good results... but I'll wait for more stats for sharing as it's really surprising to me :-) (experiences with humans in the loop take so much time...) Incidentally, if you want to contribute, here a version of MoGo which adapts itself to your level; from the tables of results it generates you can see your level in MC simulations: http://teytaud.over-blog.com/article-a-linux-program-for-evaluating-your-level-in-go-91946330.html
(sorry, only for Linux...) Best regards, Olivier 2011/11/19 Brian Sheppard <[email protected]> > I have been running Fuego 0.4.1 and Mogo3 on CGOS 9x9 for many thousands > of games. Here is the data:**** > > ** ** > > Fuego0.4.1-100K,p 2657**** > > Fuego0.4.1-30K,p 2520 **** > > Fuego0.4.1-10K,p 2376 **** > > Fuego0.4.1-3K,p 2205 **** > > Fuego0.4.1-1K,p 2024 **** > > Fuego0.4.1-300,p 1756 **** > > ** ** > > Mogo3MC90K,p 2428 **** > > Mogo3MC30K,p 2304 **** > > Mogo3MC10K,p 2169 **** > > Mogo3MC3K,p 2008 **** > > Mogo3MC1K,p 1823**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Olivier Teytaud > *Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:11 PM > *To:* computer-go > *Subject:* [Computer-go] level of MCTS programs depending on the number > of sims in 9x9 (unlimited time setting for humans)**** > > ** ** > > Hi; > Does anyone roughly know the level of a MCTS program in 9x9 depending on > the number of simulations per move ? > > I know there are plenty of drawbacks to any such correspondence, that it > depends on your style, on the time settings (I here assume the human has > very long time...) and so on, > but any rough estimate would be better than nothing :-) > > I would roughly say: > 500 simulations = KGS 10 kyu > 3 000 simulations = 5 kyu > 15 000 simulations = KGS 1 Dan > 3 000 000 simulations = pro level > > ...but I have no clear idea of this :-) > > (please don't spend too much time on the 1000 reasons for which such a > correspondance does not make too much sense, > we all know it :-) ) > > Best regards, > Olivier > **** > > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://dvandva.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/computer-go > -- ========================================================= Olivier Teytaud -- [email protected] TAO, LRI, UMR 8623(CNRS - Universite Paris-Sud), bat 490 Universite Paris-Sud F-91405 Orsay Cedex France http://0z.fr/EJm0g (one of the 56.5 % of french who did not vote for Sarkozy in 2007)
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