Let me guess: 1000 simulations per move ~= 1 Dan ?

Erik


On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Olivier Teytaud <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Brian;
> thanks for sharing these results.
> I'll try to post here results in Kyu / Dan.
> For the first results I've seen it's a bit surprising to me; in 9x9 very
> small numbers of simulations have unexpectedly
> good results... but I'll wait for more stats for sharing as it's really
> surprising to me :-)
> (experiences with humans in the loop take so much time...)
> Incidentally, if you want to contribute, here a version of MoGo which adapts
> itself to your level;
> from the tables of results it generates you can see your level in MC
> simulations:
> http://teytaud.over-blog.com/article-a-linux-program-for-evaluating-your-level-in-go-91946330.html
>
> (sorry, only for Linux...)
>
> Best regards,
> Olivier
>
> 2011/11/19 Brian Sheppard <[email protected]>
>>
>> I have been running Fuego 0.4.1 and Mogo3 on CGOS 9x9 for many thousands
>> of games. Here is the data:
>>
>>
>>
>> Fuego0.4.1-100K,p        2657
>>
>> Fuego0.4.1-30K,p        2520
>>
>> Fuego0.4.1-10K,p        2376
>>
>> Fuego0.4.1-3K,p        2205
>>
>> Fuego0.4.1-1K,p        2024
>>
>> Fuego0.4.1-300,p        1756
>>
>>
>>
>> Mogo3MC90K,p        2428
>>
>> Mogo3MC30K,p        2304
>>
>> Mogo3MC10K,p        2169
>>
>> Mogo3MC3K,p       2008
>>
>> Mogo3MC1K,p        1823
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Olivier Teytaud
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:11 PM
>> To: computer-go
>> Subject: [Computer-go] level of MCTS programs depending on the number of
>> sims in 9x9 (unlimited time setting for humans)
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi;
>> Does anyone roughly know the level of a MCTS program in 9x9 depending on
>> the number of simulations per move ?
>>
>> I know there are plenty of drawbacks to any such correspondence, that it
>> depends on your style, on the time settings (I here assume the human has
>> very long time...) and so on,
>> but any rough estimate would be better than nothing :-)
>>
>> I would roughly say:
>> 500 simulations = KGS 10 kyu
>> 3 000 simulations = 5 kyu
>> 15 000 simulations = KGS 1 Dan
>> 3 000 000 simulations = pro level
>>
>> ...but I have no clear idea of this :-)
>>
>> (please don't spend too much time on the 1000 reasons for which such a
>> correspondance does not make too much sense,
>> we all know it :-) )
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Olivier
>>
>>
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