I think the Netherlands, Sweden, West Germany, even France in some ways are preferable models but Canada does have something going for it. A national health insurance (with essentially doctors) might be more sellable. There is alot of objective evidence that one thing our government does well is efficiently run insurance programs.
----- Original Message ---- From: rlsimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:13:04 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Canada The model to follow is not Canada ...it's the Netherlands !! -----Original Message----- From: b s-w [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:42 AM Subject: Re: Canada Creating a less expensive, probably single-payer, health care system that nearly everybody wants isn't socialism. It isn't welfare, since we will be paying for it, only we will pay significantly less than with the current for-profit system. It's smart fiscal policy when you can improve service and reduce price; doesn't matter whether it's a private or public system, or combination of both, as long as it works better, i.e. more effectively and economically, than what we have. Smart fiscal policy makes sense at home, in the community, nationally, and internationally. That means getting what we pay for at the best quality we can afford, at the best price. It also means that you don't go into debt to pay for necessities and leave that debt for your children to repay. This applies to health care as well as electronics choices and purchases, and many other fiscal/economic decisions we all need to make. Betty > Admission of Interest:Paula, I AM a socialist, hopefullly a thoughful > and knowledgeable one. I personally think that national healtcare is > too important to use a means of scoring cheap political points towards > a larger agenda. Even so, I have some observations on is nat.health > care 'as' socialism... > > Socialism is used a as bugaboo in this country synonymoulsy with > Communism, you might as well say Satanic - they both start with 'S'... > In the rest of the world, even conservatives will admit the > differences (e.g. commitment to democracy) > > There is no question that all aspects of the welfare state including > are historically associated with political movements associated with > the political Left which in most countries are socialists. Health care > is no exception. However (!), national health care always had a broad > base of support, everywhere outside the US, because even rich > people... ************************************************************************ * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ************************************************************************ * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived ************************************************************************ ************************************************************************ * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ************************************************************************ * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived ************************************************************************
