Of course it is not socialism, I merely was pointing out that it historically inaccurate to deny that socialists deserve the lion share of credit for struggling for it in the rest of the world.
And that fact is enough in and of itself for people of a not-uncommon mindset to oppose it. (Btw, I don't think there is anyone smarter in the world about social and economic party than the Swedish Socialdemocratic Party) ----- Original Message ---- From: b s-w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:41:52 AM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Canada Creating a less expensive, probably single-payer, health care system that nearly everybody wants isn't socialism. It isn't welfare, since we will be paying for it, only we will pay significantly less than with the current for-profit system. It's smart fiscal policy when you can improve service and reduce price; doesn't matter whether it's a private or public system, or combination of both, as long as it works better, i.e. more effectively and economically, than what we have. Smart fiscal policy makes sense at home, in the community, nationally, and internationally. That means getting what we pay for at the best quality we can afford, at the best price. It also means that you don't go into debt to pay for necessities and leave that debt for your children to repay. This applies to health care as well as electronics choices and purchases, and many other fiscal/economic decisions we all need to make. Betty > Admission of Interest:Paula, I AM a socialist, hopefullly a thoughful and > knowledgeable one. I personally > think that national healtcare is too important to use a means of scoring > cheap political points > towards a larger agenda. Even so, I have some observations on is nat.health > care 'as' socialism... > > Socialism is used a as bugaboo in this country synonymoulsy with Communism, > you might as well > say Satanic - they both start with 'S'... In the rest of the world, even > conservatives will admit the differences > (e.g. commitment to democracy) > > There is no question that all aspects of the welfare state including are > historically associated with political > movements associated with the political Left which in most countries are > socialists. Health care is no > exception. However (!), national health care always had a broad base of > support, everywhere outside > the US, because even rich people... 10.38 viernes --------------------------------- Sé un Mejor Amante del Cine ¿Quieres saber cómo? ¡Deja que otras personas te ayuden!. ************************************************************************ * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ************************************************************************ * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived ************************************************************************ ************************************************************************ * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ************************************************************************ * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header "X-No-Archive: yes" will not be archived ************************************************************************
