Furthermore, we have 2 at&t fones (my trusty old razrV3 original model and my wife's spiffy new samsung sgh-a707 "sync" ...it's red!!) ...she uses none of the features at all except the camera and calls ...she had me shut off voicemail and internet and messages... I use everything sadly only GPRS ...both are "quad band." We went to the EU recently and AT&T cheerfully (yes, cheerfully) sent detailed and simple email to unlock the 2 phones which went fine without a hitch. In the EU we simply went into a phone shop and purchased 2 pay&go cards (in our case Proximus=like Tmobile) with minutes. They were working instantly with our phones. We were able to add minutes (we did it at the supermarket checkout register while shopping) but one can do it online or via phone if you have a debit card in the EU...we didn't. My razrV3 could do WAP but I didn't use it much. My wife never did any of that...both phones did messages with aplomb. We were thrilled. Our cards are in my desk drawer as they remain active for a year. In the plane, I stuck the at&t sims back in and we were able to call our ride from the line waiting for the passport guy...easy as pie!! ...oh, yeah...reception was spectacular pegged at 5 bars in little burgs in the backwaters ...in the area we travelled, only the caller pays, recipient pays nothing...even if the card is out of minutes, you can get called. You MUST have a quad band fone for this as the EU uses the 2 other bands not used in the usa!! Set the thing to auto select the network and you're in business!!
-----Original Message----- From: chad evans wyatt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 4:51 PM Subject: Re: WiFi mobile phone Not a feature, what's missing is unlocked universal use. Tied to ATT (same model overseas, tied to one carrier), the iPhone is useful only to those who wish to spend, rather than use. That's the problem, Tom. Betty is trying to get there without shackles. --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [CGUYS] WiFi mobile phone To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 3:28 PM >Smartphone... (based on windowsCE otherwise termed PocketPC or >WindowsMobile but mostly the same thing with editions of Word, Excel, >Outlook, AdobeReader, etc. built in which are amazingly like the >desktop apps with all the features and a similar or identical look and >feel with file compatibility or automated conversion on sync)...lots of >software some free to add on... Making a list like this and leaving out iPhone is hopelessly uninformed. The iPhone runs circles around the stodgy WinCE/PocketPC/WindowsMobile. So let's return to Betty's original question with some specificity. What features did you find missing from the iPhone? ************************************************************************* ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ************************************************************************* ************************************************************************* ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** ************************************************************************* ************************************************************************* ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *************************************************************************