Damn, the most reasonable response I've heard so far.


On Dec 2, 2008, at 12:04 AM, db wrote:

Yes,  and a good thing too that it was determined to be a crime.
Just because the internet is a new frontier does not mean crime and injustice isn't perpetrated by its use. To the contrary. The internet is just a new medium for human beings to use for age old purposes (information, communication, business etc.) and sometimes unfortunately in age old abusive or unfair ways (persecution, fraud, theft, ..)

Basic tenet of most all law. One's rights only extend as far as they don't deprive someone else of their (more fundamental) rights. In this case, that adult mother needs to be policed for the undue, adverse and irresponsible affect she had on that minor through means of identity disguise.

The Internet needs fair impartial regulation and enforcement like any other human affairs. No regulation or enforcement of power = inevitable runaway abuse of power.... as Wallstreet showed us all recently.

Recent GGUYS example: While it may seem that peer to peer sharing of pirated movies is a victim-less win-win free Xmas gift type of thing, it isn't if you look more deeply at the situation. Not only are the artists defrauded of their means of income but fellow users of broadband often can't reasonably access the service they paid for for email and browsing purposes because the movie down loaders figured out a new way to hog the vast majority of available bandwidth with bit torrent software designed and set with aggressive functional parameters.

Just because the Internet is new doesn't make it immune or impervious to human crimes and self-serving abuses. Anybody that thinks we have invented something "people proof" and "divined from the gods" in the internet has been "drinking the cool aid."

But more importantly... the nature of laws and regulation is that they don't just spring into existence whole and perfect. They are developed incrementally via trial and error. The US Constitution was a new take in a new land using the best of what had come from hundreds of years of developments like "the Reformation, Age of Reason, Rights of Man, French Resolution etc. Hey... we're just getting started here with the new land of the internet! Patience is a virtue, right?

Sorry for "running on and on" ... I couldn't help myself...

db

Matthew Taylor wrote:
Lying on line *with malicious intent to inflict harm via fraudulent means* with resultant actual harm inflicted is not a thought crime. It is, and a jury agreed, an actual crime.

Matthew

On Dec 1, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:

Wow, this even tops the DMCA's thought crimes...


MySpace ruling could lead to jail for lying online

"Web site terms of service, which end users universally ignore, suddenly have teeth: violating them is a federal hacking offense, punishable with
jail time. The days of being able to freely lie on the Web could be
coming to an end. This could mean serious trouble for people who lie
about their age, weight, or marital status in their online dating
profiles."

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13739_3-10110069-46.html



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