>Tax cuts are not spending.  The money is not the government's it is  
>the taxpayer's money.

The neocon mantra. Irrational, but constantly repeated. Of course tax 
cuts are spending. To deny that is more cracked economics of the sort 
that got us into this mess.

>There is direction - the direction of the individual.  What there is  
>not is central direction with government overhead deducted.

More neocon mantra. That is no direction. Unless you turn all the 
recipients into zombies there will be no direction to the spending. It 
will be random. A tax cut is much like walking down the street handing 
out $100 bills to all you meet. Too much will go for beer and bling. It 
will dissipate our limited resources.

>Are you arguing that the government is more efficient and should  
>direct all spending?  I think the Soviets tried that for a while.

More neocon mantra. You careen from one extreme to the other. Both 
extremes are nonsensical. No the Soviets did not try it for a while. They 
ran their system on blind ideology, just as the neocons would have us do.

Do you know of a single corporation that simply gives money to its 
employees and tells them to freely do what they want? I think not. Then 
why do you insist that the government should be run this way? Sheer 
nonsense.

>Nonsense - what proportion of the economy do you think should be  
>directed by the government?  It is a simple question.

Only neocons and communists think that is a simple question.

A large part of of our non-economy is run by businesses, causing great 
problems. That is why health care is such a mess. Health care is not an 
economic good. In areas where the market does not function it is simply 
nuts to operate as if it does. There are some areas where the market 
functions well. Other areas where it never functions well. In the middle 
there are areas where the market sometimes functions and sometimes does 
not. That changes over time. It is certainly not simple.

There is also a role for rule making and enforcement. Laissez faire is 
what created the current economic mess. Can you name any sport that does 
not have a referee? Can you imagine what the Super Bowl would look like 
if the game were played with neocon rules? It would be absurd.

>As it happens my child required thousands of dollars of medical  
>expenses this past year, as did my wife.  My choice is paying those  
>bills or saving for college.  Retirement is not even a consideration.   
>Are my taxes still to low Tom?

That prooves the point. With health care (mostly a non-economic good) in 
the clutches of greedy corporations that is exactly what happens. They 
bleed the sick so they can engorge their bonuses. Look at how the 
Europeans run this. Their cost of delivery is far lower than ours and the 
quality of their results are much higher. None of what you describe would 
happen in a well run system. It doesn't happen to Europeans.

I think you need to read less propaganda, keep away from extremes, and 
find out more about how the world really works.


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