-------------- Original message from Matthew Taylor <[email protected]>: --------------
> On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:33 PM, db wrote: > > > To me the cutting tax (ad nauseum...), small hands off government, > > "free" trade concepts are just "me me me" first types trying to make > > sure nobody gets in the way of "them getting theirs" > > And you determine this how? > > > and they have been increasingly motivated in the last 25 years or so > > to come strongly and selfishly forward by a trend of increasing > > American scarcity and diminishing prospects. > > What scarcity? What is America running out of in your view? In what > way are our prospects diminished? Most libertarians believe that if > there is a scarcity, it represents a market opportunity, and believe > that with the right choices made our prospects look good indeed. > > > > > > I wouldn't want to be standing in line for the lifeboats on a > > sinking ship with any of these types around. > > Amazing how many military who might be coming to your rescue are of a > more conservative or libertarian bent though. > > > > I think you'll find rank and file military donations to Ron Paul, Obama and the Dems in general dwarfed those to McCain and the Repubs. http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/17/mccain-edges-obama-with-military-donors/ > > That they argue that such policy is best for all of us is just > > superficial and insincere BS propaganda > > You have some secret inside source that tells you that libertarians do > no believe what they are saying? > > > ... a slim cover for an otherwise socially unacceptable self serving > > philosophy. > > Self reliance within a greater community, a long standing American > tradition, is now socially unacceptable? > > > I'm convinced that by nature they subjectively don't really give a > > functional damn about the good of the whole > > By nature? So you are saying there is a libertarian gene? > > > so debating the economic and governance points with them makes about > > as much sense as trying to talk a wolf out of eating meat. > > Or say vegetarians who feed their dogs and cats vegetable diets? > > > > > > If the last decade didn't prove out the bankruptcy of their theories > > of governance, I don't know what ever will. > > The spendthrift Republican congress of 2001 - 2006 were hardly an > exemplar of libertarian fiscal policy. > > > > > > But I do learn a lot from other types in discussing such matters so > > I guess our string is worthwhile. > > Other types. Do you mean types you already agree with? I find I > learn more from being challenged with demonstrable reason backed up by > facts. > > > ************************************************************************* > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > ************************************************************************* ************************************************************************* ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *************************************************************************
