> My understanding of the Mess Vista got introduced to was yes it was
> MS not releasing code and not allowing coders access to needed knowledge.
> 
> I remember a few of the antivirus folks complaining quite publicly about
this.
> 
> Seems that they did a lot more work with 7.

The anti-virus folks, most notably Symantec, complained because MS changed
the kernel security and wouldn't let them hook in that level.  MS eventually
caved, which was a mistake.


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