I've only been vaguely following this, but I don't understand what's wrong with the camcorders with built in hard drives. I'm also usually anti-Sony. However I do have a Sony DCR-SR80 with built in 60 gig hard drive. That gives me 13+ hours of record time at its' finest setting. If I know in advance I'll be recording longer then that I'd probably bring a laptop or something to download to. BTW, besides that Sony doesn't make Mac software for this camera I'm still able to import it into iMovie. And I was totally amazed at it's sound recording. This camera makes you feel like you've got a 20' boom mike in front of you. And it filters out surrounding noise/sound very well. And the mike sounds like it has a wind sock on it. None of that tinny noise. I'm not a professional videographer. Used to be a pro still photographer before I decided to retire from public life, and shooting video has always been a bit confusing to me. I grew to used to pushing the shutter release and moving on to the next image I wanted. On the video camera you hit the record button and everything keeps moving. Enough to drive a still photographer insane. Anyway, back to my point. I agree it mostly depends on what the camera is being used for. But for the majority of everyday use in average/normal circumstances I don't see a 60 gig hard drive as lacking.

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On Dec 4, 2009, at 6:49 PM, b_s-wilk wrote:

Depends on what you needs are, the new Red cameras are ssd/HD flash based.
These things are shooting 4k too.

What do you do when you're shooting on location and run out of HD space? Buy another camera? Flash isn't reliable enough yet. Solid state drives are absurdly expensive and cumbersome compared to tape. Don't want to lose hours of video because of the wrong choice of media.

Maybe removable solid state drives will be available at a reasonable price some day, but they're hundreds of times more expensive than digital tapes. I want an organic drive when it's ready.


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