I agree.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Zietlow, Rebecca E." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:35 pm
Subject: Re: FMLA abrogation upheld

> The deferential tone is due to the fact that the Court had
> previously recognized gender based classifications as a suspect
> class, and that Congress was attempting to remedy the type of sex
> based stereotypes that the Court had previously found to violate
> the equal protection clause.  Because the Court had already
> identified the type of discrimination that Congress was attempting
> to remedy in the FMLA, it appears to be consistent with the
> congruence and proprtionality analysis of Kimel and Garrett, in
> which the ADA and the ADEA failed the test because the Court had
> not previously identified the discrimination that Congress was
> trying to address.
>
> Rebecca Zietlow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allan Ides [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 3:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: FMLA abrogation upheld
>
>
> I think your description is accurate & I think there is no doctrinal
> tension; nor, as I posted on the fedcourts list, do I think there was
> anything particularly suprising about CJ Rehnquist being in the
> majority given his more recent views on gender discrimination.  I do
> think, however, that the approach to congruence and proportionality
> adopted in Hibbs adopted a more deferential tone, though that may
> be a
> product of the underlying right having been judicially recognized.
>
> Allan Ides
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Tushnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:57 am
> Subject: Re: FMLA abrogation upheld
>
> > I'm getting confused on the Morrison/Hibbs point, so here's a post
> > aimed at attempting to straighten out my own thinking.  Any
> > corrections/guidance are welcome.
> >
> > 1.  Morrison's commerce clause holding:  lots of evidence before
> > Congress, etc., but all going to whether violence against women
> > has a substantial aggregate effect on commerce, and therefore
> > irrelevant because violence against women is not a commercial
> > activity subject to the cumulative effects test/principle.
> >
> > 2 (a).  Morrison's fourteenth amendment holding:  evidence of
> > failures in state law enforcement systems, arguably violating the
> > constitutional rights of victims of gender-based violence, but a
> > remedy aimed at the perpetrators of the violence isn't congruent
> > with the constitutional violations.
> >
> > 2 (b)  Morrison's fourteenth amendment holding:  Congress has the
> > power under section five to make it criminal -- and so to provide
> > a civil remedy -- for a private person to interfere with rights
> > protected by section one
> > , but gender-based violence doesn't do so.
> >
> > 3.  Hibbs's fourteenth amendment holding:  sufficient evidence of
> > constitutional violations by state agencies to justify a remedy
> > that is congruent with the violations (targeted at the violators,
> > that is, the states) and proportional to them (that is, not overly
> > broad, etc.)
> >
> > If this understanding of the cases is right, where's the doctrinal
> > tension?
>

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