What an appalling statute.  I am embarrassed for my native Texas (not the
first time!).

Not only does this Texas pledge suggest a somewhat creepy-sounding conflict
with pledging loyalty to the *United* States (and what's with the faux
archaic language:  "thee"?), but I think it plainly violates Barnette.

I do not think a parental excuse option is adequate to save it.  A child has
a right to object him/herself on the spot, regardless of what the parent
thinks, and before it may be feasible to obtain the parent's view.

Furthermore, as discussed in some prior postings of mine when a similar
issue came up:  to the extent this statute (if it does, I haven't seen the
full text) requires *private* schools to promote or hold such
pledge-of-allegiance ceremonies, it plainly violates the free-speech rights
of the private schools themselves.

Finally, it is silly to refer to Texas as "indivisible" when the 1845
statehood act expressly gives Texas the option of splitting into five
states.

Bryan Wildenthal
Thomas Jefferson School of Law

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The new Texas statute includes a parental option to excuse a student from
reciting either pledge.

keith whittington

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Aren't we missing the obvious point here?  It may be that certain government
employees or even bar members are required to take the pledge pursuant to
their employment or bar membership, but it seems a pretty clear violation of
the First Amendment under West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette
to require school children to pledge allegiance to the U.S. or Texas flags.


Lauren Gilbert
Assistant Professor of Law
St. Thomas University School of Law

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From: Paul Finkelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I received the follow question from an English professor in one of the
Texas state colleges.  I wonder what people on this list think of the
law law and her question:

"The state legislature passed a law this session that mandates
schoolchildren pledge an allegiance to the Texas flag as well as the US
flag each morning.  It goes:  "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance
to thee, Texas, one and indivisible."

My question is this: if I pledge allegiance to Texas, am I not then
nullifying my pledge to the US?  Do I not, by pledging allegiance to one
state, NOT pledge any allegiance to the other 49?  This seems
unconsitutional to me, but then what do I know? "


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