Yeah, I'd like to, but the incubator folks don't like it. So we are exploring other options. Karl
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Matt Weber <m...@mattweber.org> wrote: > Why not just stick with Apache Connector Framework? After all, that > is exactly what this is... a connector framework. It has a short and > simple acronym, ACF, and best of all requires no additional effort, no > refactoring, no website updates, etc! Just my $0.02, not that it > really matters.... > > -- > Thanks, > Matt Weber > > 2:20 PM, Karl Wright <daddy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm not going to go head-to-head with you trying to split hairs. ;-) > > Can we agree that something like "ContentCF" is a possibility under your > > guidelines? (I'm not proposing that, I'm just trying to open the field > up a > > bit.) > > > > Karl > > > > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Heh - only with an extremely liberal definition of multiword. The list > >> really speaks for itself here. > >> > >> > (I'm not including commons or jakarta in this, because they are > multiple > >> > projects) > >> > > >> > >> They are each a single top level project with many sub projects. > >> > >> On 8/30/10 5:06 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > >> > Ok, let's do a count. > >> > > >> > Single word: 49 > >> > Multiword: 26 > >> > > >> > (I'm not including commons or jakarta in this, because they are > multiple > >> > projects) > >> > > >> > Karl > >> > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Right - mashed together into one word - not multiple words. And if > you > >> >> look, it's not even a 'lot' without the bold around it ;) > >> >> > >> >> On 8/30/10 4:50 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > >> >>> TrafficServer? OpenWebBeans? XMLBeans? There are actually a *lot* > of > >> >> names > >> >>> that are multiple words. They're just mashed together. ;-) > >> >>> > >> >>> Karl > >> >>> > >> >>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> On 8/30/10 1:37 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > >> >>>>> snip - Consider using functional names, especially for products of > >> >>>> existing > >> >>>>> projects, e.g. for an "Apache Foo" project, the product name > "Apache > >> >> Foo > >> >>>>> Pipelines". -snip > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Granted, "Lucene Connectors Framework" fills this to a T, but this > >> >> would > >> >>>>> imply that functional names are OK for top-level projects too. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> FYI, these are listed as guidelines, so I don't think they are > meant > >> to > >> >>>> determine what is OK or not. A guideline is by definition not > >> mandatory. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> It would seem to me that the reason this is emphasized for > subprojects > >> >>>> of foo even more so than foo, is that foo will already be a unique > >> >>>> simple abstract name. After you have that, it's best to be > descriptive > >> >>>> for sub projects. If you don't have a unique simple abstract > >> 'component' > >> >>>> of the name for a top level project, many of the other guidelines > are > >> >>>> not met very well. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Below are some current Apache project names - you start to see a > >> pattern > >> >>>> - notice that most of them will be the top hit on google using > simply > >> >>>> the name (yes, including ant, tiles and felix surprisingly ;) ). > This > >> >>>> isn't always the case of course - many different historical issues > >> >>>> factor into these names - but as you can see - even just more than > one > >> >>>> word for the name is extremely uncommon. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> HTTP Server > >> >>>> Abdera > >> >>>> ActiveMQ > >> >>>> Ant > >> >>>> APR > >> >>>> Archiva > >> >>>> Avro > >> >>>> Buildr > >> >>>> Camel > >> >>>> Cassandra > >> >>>> Cayenne > >> >>>> Click > >> >>>> Cocoon > >> >>>> Commons > >> >>>> Continuum > >> >>>> CouchDB > >> >>>> CXF > >> >>>> DB > >> >>>> Directory > >> >>>> Excalibur > >> >>>> Felix > >> >>>> Forrest > >> >>>> Geronimo > >> >>>> Gump > >> >>>> Hadoop > >> >>>> Harmony > >> >>>> HBase > >> >>>> HttpComponents > >> >>>> Jackrabbit > >> >>>> Jakarta > >> >>>> James > >> >>>> Lenya > >> >>>> Logging > >> >>>> Lucene > >> >>>> Mahout > >> >>>> Maven > >> >>>> Mina > >> >>>> MyFaces > >> >>>> Nutch > >> >>>> ODE > >> >>>> OFBiz > >> >>>> OpenEJB > >> >>>> OpenJPA > >> >>>> OpenWebBeans > >> >>>> PDFBox > >> >>>> Perl > >> >>>> Pivot > >> >>>> POI > >> >>>> Portals > >> >>>> Qpid > >> >>>> Roller > >> >>>> Santuario > >> >>>> ServiceMix > >> >>>> Shindig > >> >>>> Sling > >> >>>> SpamAssassin > >> >>>> STDCXX > >> >>>> Struts > >> >>>> Subversion > >> >>>> Synapse > >> >>>> Tapestry > >> >>>> Tika > >> >>>> TCL > >> >>>> Tiles > >> >>>> Tomcat > >> >>>> TrafficServer > >> >>>> Turbine > >> >>>> Tuscany > >> >>>> UIMA > >> >>>> Velocity > >> >>>> Wicket > >> >>>> Web Services > >> >>>> Xalan > >> >>>> Xerces > >> >>>> XML > >> >>>> XMLBeans > >> >>>> XML Graphics > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Karl > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Mark Miller < > markrmil...@gmail.com> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> On 8/30/10 1:05 PM, Karl Wright wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> I'm not too keen on just a simple abstract name - too > meaningless > >> for > >> >>>> me. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> It works for countless Apache projects (that's really the > standard) > >> - > >> >>>>>> not really buying it would be a problem here. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Also, I havn't been following closely, so if someone hasn't > pointed > >> it > >> >>>>>> out yet, fyi on some recommendations: > >> >>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/project-names.html > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> - Mark > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > Thanks, > Matt Weber >
