On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Grant Ingersoll <gsing...@apache.org> wrote: > I think we need to brainstorm around this board report a bit more, especially > the steps for graduation: > > We definitely need more active committers. It's basically Karl at this point > and Robert, Simon and I jump in from time to time for higher level > discussions. I can tell you schedule wise I'm going to have a hard time > contributing code for the foreseeable future, which is unfortunate because > when I signed up for this I really thought I would be more involved in it. > So, how do we get people engaged more? We presumably have a ton of > committers already on the project, but none are contributing. > > One thought is that we should merge user and dev mailing lists together. > This is actually considered best practice for incubating projects (I had > missed that) since it gets users interacting w/ devs right away and can > likely help encourage contributions. > > In order to graduate, I think we need the following: > 1. one or two more releases > 2. At least 3 other active committers besides Karl > 3. Whatever other criteria is listed on the Incubator site (we can review it) >
I agree. > Karl, what do you think we can do to make it easier for people to get into > the code? Are other people putting up patches? > What's been happening is that we do indeed get code from contributors, but the contributors in question seem like they are new to open-source. I usually have to provide quite a bit of process advice, and explain the steps, and even sometimes do a chunk of the code myself. So we definitely are not at the point yet where we have knowledgeable developers contributing regularly. On the other hand, ManifoldCF in Action went MEAP just last night, and I have structured the book to make it a very good training exercise for potential contributors. My suggestion is to work that angle as much as possible. I'm looking now for people who want free copies in exchange for reviews for marketing purposes. This probably means you gotta at least read it. ;-) Let me know if you're willing. Karl > > On Mar 1, 2011, at 9:00 AM, no-re...@apache.org wrote: > >> Dear ManifoldCF Developers, >> >> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator >> PMC. >> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your >> quarterly >> board report. >> >> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 16 March 2011, 10 am Pacific. The >> report >> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator >> PMC >> requires your report to be submitted one week before the board meeting, to >> allow >> sufficient time for review. >> >> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, >> and >> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you >> should submit your report is one week prior to the board meeting. >> >> Thanks, >> >> The Apache Incubator PMC >> >> Submitting your Report >> ---------------------- >> >> Your report should contain the following: >> >> * Your project name >> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the >> project >> or necessarily of its field >> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards >> graduation. >> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware >> of >> * How has the community developed since the last report >> * How has the project developed since the last report. >> >> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at: >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2011 >> >> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this >> page is >> created from a template. >> >> Mentors >> ------- >> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the >> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the >> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator >> PMC. >> >> Incubator PMC >> > > -------------------------- > Grant Ingersoll > http://www.lucidimagination.com > >
