Also, would LucidImagination be willing to put up a blurb for the book
on its site?
Karl

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Karl Wright <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Grant Ingersoll <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I think we need to brainstorm around this board report a bit more, 
>> especially the steps for graduation:
>>
>> We definitely need more active committers.  It's basically Karl at this 
>> point and Robert, Simon and I jump in from time to time for higher level 
>> discussions.  I can tell you schedule wise I'm going to have a hard time 
>> contributing code for the foreseeable future, which is unfortunate because 
>> when I signed up for this I really thought I would be more involved in it.  
>> So, how do we get people engaged more?  We presumably have a ton of 
>> committers already on the project, but none are contributing.
>>
>> One thought is that we should merge user and dev mailing lists together.  
>> This is actually considered best practice for incubating projects (I had 
>> missed that) since it gets users interacting w/ devs right away and can 
>> likely help encourage contributions.
>>
>> In order to graduate, I think we need the following:
>> 1. one or two more releases
>> 2. At least 3 other active committers besides Karl
>> 3. Whatever other criteria is listed on the Incubator site (we can review it)
>>
>
> I agree.
>
>> Karl, what do you think we can do to make it easier for people to get into 
>> the code?  Are other people putting up patches?
>>
>
> What's been happening is that we do indeed get code from contributors,
> but the contributors in question seem like they are new to
> open-source. I usually have to provide quite a bit of process advice,
> and explain the steps, and even sometimes do a chunk of the code
> myself.  So we definitely are not at the point yet where we have
> knowledgeable developers contributing regularly.
>
> On the other hand, ManifoldCF in Action went MEAP just last night, and
> I have structured the book to make it a very good training exercise
> for potential contributors.  My suggestion is to work that angle as
> much as possible.  I'm looking now for people who want free copies in
> exchange for reviews for marketing purposes.  This probably means you
> gotta at least read it. ;-)  Let me know if you're willing.
>
> Karl
>
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 9:00 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
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>> --------------------------
>> Grant Ingersoll
>> http://www.lucidimagination.com
>>
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