Hi John (and everyone), just catching up on the listserv and went to your 
"Callers and Music" page--

very helpful info there!
I wish I had found it last year when I was looking for resources for this 
caller-and-musician workshop that we did.

In particular, I had searched all over the internet last year for some clue as 
to how many times through a typical improper duple contra dance would run, and 
had a real hard time finding that info.

I had concluded that with 5 duples in a set (our usual), we might dance through 
up to 17 times, which would take about 9 minutes at 117bpm..... so that those 
who started at the top would get back to the top.

Do you think that's too long?

I was under the impression that in the US the lines are often longer than 5 
duples, and that the convention was to dance long enough to let everyone travel 
up and down the line the whole way....so I was thinking that in a seasoned 
contra dance group the dance might go on 15 minutes or more?

Very curious about this now!

Kat Kitching in Halifax NS

Sep 4, 2024 3:16:24 PM John Sweeney via Contra Callers 
<[email protected]>:

> Hi Seth,
>               Linda Game (English Contra Dance Band) ran a session for the 
> Irish musicians who were going to play for the first contra dance that we ran 
> in Paris.  I have put a copy of her notes at 
> https://contrafusion.co.uk/documents/LindaGameMusicianWorkshop.jpg - I hope 
> Linda won’t mind.
>               One interesting exercise that she did was to get four dancers 
> to do some Rory O’Mores to a Reel, then the same sequence to a Jig so that 
> the band could see the effect on the dancers.
>               This is meant for callers: 
> https://contrafusion.co.uk/CallersandMusic.html but you might find some 
> useful points there.
>               I have danced (ceilidh, but same challenge) to a band who 
> seemed to think that they were playing for a concert.  They put in extra 
> beats and ran improvisations across  the phrases.  They went so wild that you 
> couldn’t hear the phrasing.  It was fantastic to listen to, but a nightmare 
> to try to dance to!
>               It is crucial that the band understand that the dancers are 
> listening to the beat and the phrasing.  They especially want to hear the 
> beginning of A1 and B1 clearly and unambiguously.
>               Good luck!
>             Happy dancing,
>                    John                      
>                                    
> John Sweeney, Dancer, England   [email protected] 01233 625 362 & 07802 940 
> 574
> http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent            
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