You could do a cross trail through (i.e. two changes of a circular hey:
pass P right, N left).

On Thu, Apr 3, 2025, 12:12 PM Sam Whited via Contra Callers <
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> Whew, you scared me there!
>
>
> RE: the right hands, that makes sense to me, but since it was outside
> hands (in a ring), I couldn't really swap hands (since the larks would
> have their right hand free, but the robin coming at them would have
> their left hand free. I'll think more about that more; the ring balance
> felt good since you're coming out of a swing and already have hands with
> your neighbor, but it does rather break the flow of all the pull by's,
> so maybe I'll drop it.
>
> Thank you for the notes!
>
>
> —Sam
>
>
> On 2025-04-03 12:09, Tepfer, Seth via Contra Callers wrote:
> > 🤦🏻 Reading is not my forte. I completely missed the final next
> > neighbor balance and petronella left.
> >
> > I have no issue with the balance and petronella left. That will be fun.
> > There might be issues with the pass right pull by right - having two
> > rights in a row.
> >
> >
> > Seth Tepfer, MBA, CSM, PMP (he, him, his)
> >
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> > *Subject:* [Callers] Re: [External] New dance feedback
> > I believe you're improper during the progression (the pull by right to
> > next neighbors in the beginnig of B1), so the petronella left puts you
> > back in becket for the start of the dance, no? This is the only thing
> > that's changed from last night so it's quite possible I've broken it,
> > but I'm going through it in my head and I think it's equivalent to the
> > circle right 3 that used to be there (or at least, I can't figure out
> > how you'd be in becket at the end unless I've mis-typed something
> > earlier in the dance that I'm not seeing).
> >
> >
> > —Sam
> >
> >
> > On 2025-04-03 12:00, Tepfer, Seth via Contra Callers wrote:
> > > B2 ends improper rather than becket. You need to get the
> > > larks/leads/gents to swap places and then a slide left or yearn to
> > > progress.
> > >
> > >
> > > Seth Tepfer, MBA, CSM, PMP (he, him, his)
> > >
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> > > *Subject:* [External] [Callers] New dance feedback
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I've got a dance in my sketchbook that I think is ready for a bit of
> > > feedback after trying it with a small group of dancers last night, and
> > > I'm hoping to solicit some from more experienced choreographers before
> I
> > > call it again. I'm also open to name suggestions if you have any (I
> hate
> > > naming things)!
> > >
> > > Untitled, Duple becket
> > > A1. Neighbors balance across & pull by right, partner pull by; shadows
> > > balance and box the gnat [1]
> > > A2. Pull by and partner swing
> > > B1. Balance and petronella; neighbor swing
> > > B2. Ring balance, pass partner by right [2], neighbor pull by right;
> > > next neighbor balance and petronella left
> > >
> > > [1]: The shadow _balance_ in A1 is outside of your minor set along the
> > > lines.
> > > [2]: On the _pass by_ in B2 give a little tug on your outside hands to
> > > get momentum. This is really another "pull by", but "pull by right with
> > > outside hands" is a mouthful and confused the experienced dancers.
> > >
> > > A up-to-date version can be found here:
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> > >
> > > Any thoughts, critiques, etc. that I can learn from would be
> > > appreciated. Thank you!
> > >
> > > —Sam
> > >
> > >
> > > P.S. I originally had a balance before the neighbor swing too, so the
> > > swing was effectively just switching sides. Maybe I should have called
> > > it a roll away and just had no neighbor swing, but the experienced
> > > dancers were not pleased and wanted a full neighbor swing so I caved
> > > even though the petronella into a swing feels a bit "smooth" compared
> to
> > > the rest of the dance; I could still go either way on that one.
> > >
> > > P.P.S. I'm also aware that the petronella left is not common to say the
> > > least. I've seen it once or twice and always enjoyed it, but maybe it's
> > > best to steer clear? I originally had that as a circle right 3 and
> > > figured that if the experienced dancers were already going to be
> > > confused I might as well swap it for something where I can fit a
> balance
> > > like the rest of the dance. I'm not sure if this logic actually makes
> > > sense, but it felt fun to me. Last night I called it with the circle
> > > right, so that's the only part of the dance that hasn't been tried on
> > > real dancers.
> > >
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